DC5 vs 350Z vs Mk1 FRS
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oj121

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201 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Any thoughts on one of these to be run as a DD? Would be run for the next 5 years or so at around 10k a year. Max I can spend is £10k at a push............
Or would I be better off getting a newer (slightly more boring/slower) hot hatch ie. Clio r27/leon cupra?

BUG4LIFE

2,518 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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We was chating about these cars the other day - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

oj121

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Thursday 19th January 2012
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Yes thought a sperate thread for some help might be worth it as I knew there was more than just me looking for the choice.

neiljohnson

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236 months

Thursday 19th January 2012
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Imho
350z great car lovely engine rwd but only 2 seats more of a grand tourer than a sports car handling can be a bit lively at times forget modifying unless you have deep pockets for turbos or a supercharger.

Dc5 one of the best normally aspirated engines you will find although needs to be worked to get the best from it great handling very strong, import only & the insurance can be silly money suspension to hard for a daily

Focus I've spent 60k behind the wheel of mine & it can still put a smile on my
face stock not much in it performance wise with the integra but a simple remap puts it way ahead (advantage of a turbo smile) better handling for our
crap rds than the integra & easier to drive (don't have to drop a gear to overtake) long distance also would be the cheapest to insure

All are reliable as long as they are looked after but are very differant cars

It's your choice 10k is more than you need to spend to buy a good example of any of the cars

oj121

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Thursday 19th January 2012
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Seating not THAT much of an issue so the 2 seater isnt an auto ruleout. Im prob not going to mod or mod excessively. Car will remain fairly standard really.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

236 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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oj121 said:
Seating not THAT much of an issue so the 2 seater isnt an auto ruleout. Im prob not going to mod or mod excessively. Car will remain fairly standard really.
Focus will give you most bang for buck im over 300bhp with fairly simple mods smile

elementad

625 posts

179 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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The other thing to consider is that the DC5 and 350 were designed, r&d'd and built from the ground up to be good at their job. The focus is a stiffened version of a mass produced family car.

That's not to diss it because all 3 I'm sure youd be happy with, just another viewing angle

oj121

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201 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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The Focus is almost all new parts though if im not wrong? Although it shares the family name isnt it essentially a completely new car? Ill give the 130 and the new Leon Cupra a go at the same time I think.

neiljohnson

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236 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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oj121 said:
The Focus is almost all new parts though if im not wrong? Although it shares the family name isnt it essentially a completely new car? Ill give the 130 and the new Leon Cupra a go at the same time I think.
130 is ugly & can be expensive with run flat tyres & other bits Leon is a cut price golf & it shows

The rs has many bits unique to it which make it the car it is but this can count against it as the parts can be expensive at times.
The focus for me (yes I may be biased) is the best fwd car there has been, It is a fantastic all round car with abilitys that can show up many much more exotic cars.

Drive the others then drive a good focus (mine if you want) I'm confident the focus will be your choice.

niall1717

155 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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elementad said:
The other thing to consider is that the DC5 and 350 were designed, r&d'd and built from the ground up to be good at their job. The focus is a stiffened version of a mass produced family car.

That's not to diss it because all 3 I'm sure youd be happy with, just another viewing angle
This is also a strength if you want a daily driver rather than a weekend toy.

I owned a DC5 foy a year and would agree the FRS is the better daily choice - more flexible engine. I disagree the DC5 is too hard though (unless you lower it) and as for the Focus handling better - I doubt it considerably.

neiljohnson

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236 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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niall1717 said:
This is also a strength if you want a daily driver rather than a weekend toy.

I owned a DC5 foy a year and would agree the FRS is the better daily choice - more flexible engine. I disagree the DC5 is too hard th
ough (unless you lower it) and as for the Focus handling better - I doubt it considerably.
I think you would be surprised with the handling of the focus I've been on runs with both dc5's & dc2's & never had any issues in the twisty bits with only a turbocharged dc2 coming anywhere close on the straights but still not matching the grunt of the focus

wackojacko

8,581 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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It's all down to personal preferance but FYI :

I hate the 350Z as much as I do RX8's, the Gearbox is heavy and clunky, the whole thing feals heavy and lumbering, engine I found wasn't really very willing sort of sluggish.

DC5, only passengered in one but felt very nice inside i.e interior quality, rear leg room wasn't too bad.

FRS, Very nice to drive but make sure you buy a good'un as many have been abused but many more have not been looked after corrently/at all. Interior does feel a little tacky but that's an individual opinion.

oj121

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Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Everyone knows if they get a Mk1 FRS the interior will be awful but I wont be watching the interior. I can get past poor/lower standard interiors for a good drive (hence looking at the Cupra rather than the Golf).

Im finding it easier to find a cherished FRS than DC5 though!!

Chris71

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271 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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oj121 said:
Everyone knows if they get a Mk1 FRS the interior will be awful but I wont be watching the interior. I can get past poor/lower standard interiors for a good drive (hence looking at the Cupra rather than the Golf).
If it's anything like the leather pack on standard mk1 Focus the RS will offer a great combination of comfort and support. Compared to something to something like an Integra I can't imagine the interior would be a huge issue.

Personally I'd probably go for the 350Z, but that's just because I prefer old school sports cars to hot hatches or sports saloons. Be mindful if you do the same that the boot isn't huge.


oj121

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Sunday 22nd January 2012
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But its perfect for Golf (i used to sell Nissan and hated this aspect of the car)

redgriff500

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292 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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No contest for me 350z is the easy winner.

Mate had one and I want one but I can't cope with another 2 seater - if you can then buy one.

bazza1000

294 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Out of those three choices - I'd say the DC5 is the best of the bunch (fantastic cars), but as a daily driver the Focus. Both really nice so you can't go wrong if you choose either.

oj121

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Sunday 22nd January 2012
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If I manage to get myself to fit in one id consider an S2000 but it looks unlikely.

The only thing that puts me off the 350 is the reviews that its TOO heavy and boat like and will it feel special enough to keep me interested for 5 years. The other 2 cars are future classic so there will be a vibrant scene around them.

Fox-

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275 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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anonymous said:
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The 350Z is a hatchback...

oj121

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Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Being a hatch or not doesnt really come into the equation as far as im concerned. I have a Grand Vitara for lugging stuff around and fitting the dog in. Just really want an ooohhhh! car but dont really have the budget to run one and a DD so trying to mix them both into one without bankrupting myself.