child benefit question
child benefit question
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philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Hi,

i wonder if anyone can shed some light on child benefit for me.

My partner (not married) is Latvian.
Her daughter i sattending higher education in Latvia.

My partner was working in the uk in 2009.
She was receiving child benefit.

She then stopped work and started livign with me in 2010.

Child benefit was stopped pending review.

Then she started work agaain in 2011.

Now the child benefit office are sayign that she has no entitlement for child benefit for the period she was not working in 2010.
They say they will reclaim what was overpaid from money owed to her for the period after she started working again (ie for 2011).

So to me, it appears that whilst she was workign she was entitled to child benefit.
But when not workign she was not.

I thought child benefit was nto related to working?

I thought i saw soemthign on the internet about this a long time ago.
I am sure i read that if she lives with someone who is payign class 1 ni contributions then she is still entitled to child benefit.

Anyone know anythign abotu this?

I think the child benefit office have made a mistake, but it seems impossible to talk to someone and discuss.

Thanks for any help

Phil


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

174 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Hmmm.

Child Benefit payments for a child not living in this country.

Nope, can't see anything wrong with that ......

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Thank you for the helpful advice.

You don't have all the facts relevant to the moral entitlement of the case.

Please give only helpful advice.

Thank you.

Soovy

35,829 posts

288 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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What did you expect?

Why don't we just get all the money from our taxes and give it out equally to everyone who doesn't live here and have done with it.


FFS

V8mate

45,899 posts

206 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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'Higher Education' is for the over 18s? confused

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

192 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Are you talking about Child Benefit or Child Tax Credits?

How old is the Child, and does he/she live with you?

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I am asking for serious advice and help.
Not for people to rant and rave.
Please do not post if you you don not have anythign of help to post.
There are many other forums where you can vent your views/opinions.
I prefer this not to be one.

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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KrazyIvan said:
Are you talking about Child Benefit or Child Tax Credits?

How old is the Child, and does he/she live with you?
The child is 16 (strating a level equivalent - soon to go to university).
Lives abroad.
Child benefit.

It was declined rfor 2010 because she was nto working.
But i pay ni class 1.


KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

192 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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If she, your partner is working you might be able to claim child tax credits, but I am pretty sure you can only claim Child Benefit if they live under your roof. You'd be better of giving Citizens Advice a call.

Eric Mc

124,106 posts

282 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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The fact that the OP pays NI is completely irrelevant. Legally, you have no relationship with this Latvian lady. You are not connected in law.

The fact that you are living together ( I assume) will mean, however, that benefits will be assessed based on your combined incomes, not hers alone.

On what basis is she entitled to Child Benefit in the UK?

Is she now a UK national?

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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KrazyIvan said:
If she, your partner is working you might be able to claim child tax credits, but I am pretty sure you can only claim Child Benefit if they live under your roof. You'd be better of giving Citizens Advice a call.
The child or girlfriend?
The girlfriend does.
The child no.... But that part has not changed.

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
The fact that the OP pays NI is completely irrelevant. Legally, you have no relationship with this Latvian lady. You are not connected in law.

The fact that you are living together ( I assume) will mean, however, that benefits will be assessed based on your combined incomes, not hers alone.

On what basis is she entitled to Child Benefit in the UK?

Is she now a UK national?
Because she is wrking here she is currently entitled and was also entitled in 2009 and 2011 - but it seems not when she was not working in 2010.

I am sure i spoke to someone on the phobe and saw something on the i ternet about my class 1 ni being relevant. Or maybe i got it confused with something else?

Eric Mc

124,106 posts

282 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Why would your Class 1 contribution have any bearing on someone who is technically a stranger?

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Why would your Class 1 contribution have any bearing on someone who is technically a stranger?
If we are living together then our incomes are considered together for other benefits i beleive,
Maybe i got it mixed up with tax credits.
But i did read it and spoke to someone who confirmed it.

Maying it is the case for tax credits.

Also, why say she is basically a stranger because we are not married.
Good point.
Except, that even unmarried, we are unable to claim the fulm amount if child benegit for both hers and my chold.
I could onmy get 1/2 rate for mine if she already gets it.
So living together does affect child benefit in that wy.

Eric Mc

124,106 posts

282 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Hard to make sense of some of your questions due to the poor spelling.

Under current UK law, being married does confer quite a few tax and claim advantages to couples. (there are some drawbacks as well).

For most means tested benefits - such as Tax Credits - household income is always taken into account - whether the couple is married or not.

philv

Original Poster:

4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Sorry for spelling - visually impaired and clubmbsy fingers

4sure

2,438 posts

228 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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philv.... how long have you personally been resident in UK ?

zollburgers

1,278 posts

200 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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philv said:
She then stopped work and started livign with me in 2010.

Child benefit was stopped pending review.
Was the entitlement stopped because she was no longer living in the UK (assuming the child is not a UK citizen)?

I have no idea if that would have any relevance but I would certainly hope it does.

philv

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4,858 posts

231 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Stopped because my girlfriend stopped working.
I

AshRS250

516 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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You shouldn't be getting anything. End of. The child doesn't even live in the UK.