Now the Chinese start to own the West?
Now the Chinese start to own the West?
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WhoseGeneration

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4,090 posts

238 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/utilities...

I'm surprised this hasn't already been mentioned. Or, perhaps, folks don't consider it of note?

1point7bar

1,305 posts

179 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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So now ofwat could decide their profits.
They must be sick of T-bills.

SmoothCriminal

5,975 posts

230 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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The Chinese already own the west.

kieranjholland

3,606 posts

201 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Marf

22,907 posts

272 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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WhoseGeneration said:
Or, perhaps, folks don't consider it of note?
Probably this, because they've been investing in the west for years.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Not just the Chinese - my local water company is owned by YTL, who are Malaysian.

Kudos

2,674 posts

205 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Who gives a st?

Eric Mc

125,857 posts

296 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Kudos said:
Who gives a st?
A very pertinent point, as if they eventually own the water system they could very well control such matters.

turbobloke

117,504 posts

291 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Maybe all our base banks are belong to them too, in due course.

Zero interest rates invoke Zero Wing remake.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Without a national water grid as such, water is reasonably safe to sell off - they can't sell it to anyone else really, or put it on the back of a truck and take it away.

groak

3,254 posts

210 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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I always thought it wasn't the best idea to sell most of London to foreign nationals. But then, I'm just a racist.

1point7bar

1,305 posts

179 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Share value can be diluted by the Board issuing more shares.
They leased us Hong Kong, what's wrong with lending them London for a bit?

johnfm

13,751 posts

281 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Water, electric, gas companies part owned or controlled by foreigners is a bit stupid.

Uk also has little or no LNG storage IIRC.

Things that needs security and investment are communications, water, gas and power.

They can own hotels and houses, but don't let them have infrastructure.

Turn7

25,777 posts

252 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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johnfm said:
Water, electric, gas companies part owned or controlled by foreigners is a bit stupid.

Uk also has little or no LNG storage IIRC.

Things that needs security and investment are communications, water, gas and power.

They can own hotels and houses, but don't let them have infrastructure.
100% agree.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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SmoothCriminal said:
The Chinese already own the west.
No, they do not. Educate yourself on how much total debt they hold as opposed to what you may think..

WhoseGeneration

Original Poster:

4,090 posts

238 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
No, they do not. Educate yourself on how much total debt they hold as opposed to what you may think..
Is that internal or external debt?
Anyhow you have to accept that they have foreign currency reserves that they might want to usefully exploit.
What better way than buying into Western utilities companies, such that when much of the West cannot afford "cheap Chinese tat", the West will be providing income from the essentials of life.
It's, for them, a long game and they have seen what happened to Japan.

Blue Oval84

5,397 posts

192 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Of course on the plus side, as it's a national utility they can't very well pick it up and cart it back to China.

If it get's too problematic in the future I bet the government could just re-nationalise and compensate them appropriately... smile

WhoseGeneration

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4,090 posts

238 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Blue Oval84 said:
smile
Indeed.