New tyres. its going to be a noisy few months.
Discussion
Fox- said:
You bought them because they were good in snow?
What snow?
If i am right the snow that will be arriving in the next few weeks.What snow?
I could be wrong. However since i drive for a living and dont get paid if i dont work i bet against the weather and feel fairly confident these will be snow.
As a point of reference and the general rule i go on.
There is also data showing that there is a cooling period meaning the uk will go back to a similar weather pattern as 40 odd or more years ago in terms of winter temps.
We should be getting more snow rather than less and later than before so around late feb march april ish.
http://www.dandantheweatherman.com/Bereklauw/lates...
There is also data showing that there is a cooling period meaning the uk will go back to a similar weather pattern as 40 odd or more years ago in terms of winter temps.
We should be getting more snow rather than less and later than before so around late feb march april ish.
http://www.dandantheweatherman.com/Bereklauw/lates...
Interesting day. First long run at speed and some observations. Firstly my speedo now reads spot on so clearly the speedo is aligned to 215/60 profile tyres rather than the ones it came with which are 205/55.
Second the tyres are a little odd in noise profile. High pitch noise up to and peaking at around 30-35mph then it seems to drop off again.
At motorway speed the tyres are definitely noisier than the michelin primacy's i normally have on it.
They also tram line a lot more than my normal michelins. In fact the michelins dont seem to tramline much at all except on very deeply rutted motorway l1 surfaces..
Tyres also help somewhat the ride making it slightly smoother and evening out the bumps a bit more i would say. Definitely works really well with speed bumps. An absolute godsend.
Some of these new narrow plastic bumps are a nightmare normally and it is almost impossible to stop the bottom of the car hitting them but these bigger tyres seem to give enough clearance to avoid doing so with relative ease.
So in general happy just need to try them in snow now. Not sure if i will get them again though. Probably going to get contis new snow tyre next time round.
Second the tyres are a little odd in noise profile. High pitch noise up to and peaking at around 30-35mph then it seems to drop off again.
At motorway speed the tyres are definitely noisier than the michelin primacy's i normally have on it.
They also tram line a lot more than my normal michelins. In fact the michelins dont seem to tramline much at all except on very deeply rutted motorway l1 surfaces..
Tyres also help somewhat the ride making it slightly smoother and evening out the bumps a bit more i would say. Definitely works really well with speed bumps. An absolute godsend.
Some of these new narrow plastic bumps are a nightmare normally and it is almost impossible to stop the bottom of the car hitting them but these bigger tyres seem to give enough clearance to avoid doing so with relative ease.
So in general happy just need to try them in snow now. Not sure if i will get them again though. Probably going to get contis new snow tyre next time round.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
Interesting day. First long run at speed and some observations. Firstly my speedo now reads spot on so clearly the speedo is aligned to 215/60 profile tyres rather than the ones it came with which are 205/55.
Your speedo is correctly set for the tyres it came with. A speedo, by law, cannot under-read. However it is not a calibrated instrument so what ends up happening is that by design they over-read slightly. It's now accurate with your new tyres because running the wrong size has changed the rolling radius which just happens to have had enough of an effect on the speedo to make it more accurate.Hmmm right well I won't be getting another set of these.Just dangerous imho. Complete lack of lateral grip. Make of my car keeps washing out and understeering. Rear also seems to want to follow not long after.
No tyre should be this bad. Driving on tippy toes now. My Michelin a/w tyres even though down to 1.8mm were much grippier than these laterally in wetter conditions.
No tyre should be this bad. Driving on tippy toes now. My Michelin a/w tyres even though down to 1.8mm were much grippier than these laterally in wetter conditions.
2 things:
1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
jon- said:
2 things:
1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
This.1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
jon- said:
2 things:
1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
I will quite happily grant you your point about them being designed for colder climes. They are part worn 6+mm on them still so scrubbed in already as it were. While I expect them to be very good in snow/ ice conditions I still feel that in 5 degrees and less I should have much better lateral grip in the damp/wet than I do.1) They'll take a good 500 miles to scrub in
2) They're not designed for the UK. The Happapaplaplakalatespalaers are a nordic winter tyre and are designed to be run in much colder conditions. In short, it's not surprising they're rubbish in the uk. If you'd wanted a Nokian winter you should have used the WR A3 or WR D3.
I had Fuldas last year which were ok in most conditions and IIRC I had a set of Bridgestone the year before which were excellent in all conditions. Both were a million miles better than these where lateral grip is concerned in temps from -5 all the way up to 25+ degrees
Looking at the tread pattern they appear to have no lateral support to be honest just a bunch of blocks with no central grooves.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
Interesting day. First long run at speed and some observations. Firstly my speedo now reads spot on so clearly the speedo is aligned to 215/60 profile tyres rather than the ones it came with which are 205/55.
I did the sums changing from similar profiles as you but 15 to 16 inch wheels. Total difference in total rolling radius with a little maths was fractions of a percent.I would be very suprised if you noticed any difference whatsoever to speedo.
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