Which car would be the best out of these three?
Which car would be the best out of these three?
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SubaruSteve

Original Poster:

546 posts

220 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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I am taking my sister on a track day at Castle Combe next month. I have three cars I could take, but which one would be best?

1/ MG TF 1.6
2/ BMW Z3 2.8
3/ Toyota Starlet GT turbo

She is a total beginner so that need to be considered also.

Classic Grad 98

26,487 posts

189 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Z3

wackojacko

8,581 posts

219 months

Saturday 21st January 2012
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Z3, keep TC on job done..... even if it does break loose they are quite progressive so no worries.

Steve H

7,515 posts

224 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Z3 is probably the best fun to drive but if it's wet or if you have any doubts about your abilities to teach or your sisters ability to drive I'd go with the Starlet!

Edited by Steve H on Sunday 22 January 10:50

Oilchange

9,687 posts

289 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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If you want tail out fun I expect the Z3 but if you want mid engined handling then the TF.

Just don't go too fast into Quarry! (in either!)

Classic Grad 98

26,487 posts

189 months

Sunday 22nd January 2012
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Oilchange said:
If you want tail out fun I expect the Z3 but if you want mid engined handling then the TF.

Just don't go too fast into Quarry! (in either!)
TF? 'Handling'? Are you implying that an MG-TF handles better than a BMW Z3?

SubaruSteve

Original Poster:

546 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Steve H said:
Z3 is probably the best fun to drive but if it's wet or if you have any doubts about your abilities to teach or your sisters ability to drive I'd go with the Starlet!

Edited by Steve H on Sunday 22 January 10:50
I think I am heading this way, i.e. the Starlet. It is the safest option given the unknown quantity that is my sister!

gtdc

4,259 posts

312 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Which one can she afford to fix?

SubaruSteve

Original Poster:

546 posts

220 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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gtdc said:
Which one do I want to have to pay to fix?
EFA



davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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SubaruSteve said:
I think I am heading this way, i.e. the Starlet. It is the safest option given the unknown quantity that is my sister!
Has he ever driven RWD before? if not I'd be inclined to go with the Starlet. Power oversteer needs to be learnt in deserted industrial estates, not the racetrack. wink

Oilchange

9,687 posts

289 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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yes

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Classic Grad 98 said:
TF? 'Handling'? Are you implying that an MG-TF handles better than a BMW Z3?

MikeATD

174 posts

182 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Can you not take 2 of them?

Thought the TF was a 1.8? Performance wise, probably z3 will be quickest but may be look at which is cheapest to repair if something goes wrong and cheapest on tyres and brakes.

Mike

nsa

1,704 posts

257 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Classic Grad 98 said:
TF? 'Handling'? Are you implying that an MG-TF handles better than a BMW Z3?
I don't think so. Mid-engined handling is different to front-engine RWD handling. It can be more "engaging".

antnee

33 posts

181 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Henry Fiddleton

1,597 posts

206 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Just because its FWD dont think the starlet is an easy TD car!

Turbo lag, and plenty of power UNDERsteer can be just as easy to be caught out on, as is power..understeer...more lock..MORE LOCK...lift off...too much lock..TOO MUCH lock the other way...crash.

biggrin

Good luck!

SubaruSteve

Original Poster:

546 posts

220 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Henry Fiddleton said:
Just because its FWD dont think the starlet is an easy TD car!

Turbo lag, and plenty of power UNDERsteer can be just as easy to be caught out on, as is power..understeer...more lock..MORE LOCK...lift off...too much lock..TOO MUCH lock the other way...crash.

biggrin

Good luck!
Thanks, that's just the kind of encouragement I need rolleyessmile Let's hope it doesn't come to that.