Road Sign Priorities

[PaulHogan]

Saw this on Otley Chevin today (pic from google streetview).

Nice to see how they've prioritised it:

[Toltec]

I can see warning signs for pedestrians, horse riders and deer.

Not sure what priority is being assigned or implied though?

[Watchman]

Toltec said:

I can see warning signs for pedestrians, horse riders and deer.

Not sure what priority is being assigned though?

Really? You don't read top-down like the rest of us then?

[DanielJames]

I feel your pain.. What's worse is the horses and dear don't even pay any attention to the signs!! 😳

[saaby93]

Watchman said:

Really? You don't read top-down like the rest of us then?

Dont road signs read bottom up. Imagine the sign is lying on the road so youd expect people first deer later

[Six Fiend]

saaby93 said:

Watchman said:

Really? You don't read top-down like the rest of us then?

Dont road signs read bottom up. Imagine the sign is lying on the road so youd expect people first deer later

Always top to bottom.

[noosh]

If you do read it top down, which in general are you not looking out for?
What I mean is, while when you're driving you're constantly expecting the unexpected, a deer bursting out of a hedge row at a fair rate is alot harder to spot and prepare for than a pedestrian out for a saunter.

I don't see the issue though, they have to go up, regardless of order.

[saaby93]

Six Fiend said:

Always top to bottom.

youre right of course

dft said:

1.28 Where two or more warning signs are erected together, the sign relating to the hazard first encountered should be placed uppermost. When a new sign is added to an existing post, it is important to ensure that the correct order is maintained, if necessary adjusting the position of the existing signs.

Anyone finds a method of reading multiple signs by imagining lying it along the road so the lower sign appears first? Direction signs at offset junctions?

ETA yes that was it
If you have a sign for an offset junction with
<<---TownA
Town B--->>

The right turn to Town B is first

Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 22 January 23:52

[Toltec]

Watchman said:

Really? You don't read top-down like the rest of us then?

Yes I do normally read that way, I do not see any words on those signs however so where does reading come in to it? As stated I did not see any priority implied.

As a visual field I would probably notice the middle sign first then either of the others next. This may not be according to the rules for planners, but then those rules are to make sure there is consistency not necessarily as an instruction to drivers.

[Mr Gear]

You know what, the priority is spot on. From a driver's point of view, deer are the biggest hazard, because they tend to leap across the road from gaps in hedgerows.

Horses ride on the road, and you generally get a bit of warning they are there.

Pedestrians walk on the correct side of the road, have traffic sense, and are able to move out of the way, signal or communicate with you much better than the animals.

[Watchman]

Mr Gear said:

You know what, the priority is spot on. From a driver's point of view, deer are the biggest hazard, because they tend to leap across the road from gaps in hedgerows.

Horses ride on the road, and you generally get a bit of warning they are there.

Pedestrians walk on the correct side of the road, have traffic sense, and are able to move out of the way, signal or communicate with you much better than the animals.

This is a very good point.

[saaby93]

Watchman said:

This is a very good point.

Also from a drivers point of view youre less likely to see that top sign at that height unless you specifically look for it.
The bottom sign is in your normal field of view.

[tubbystu]

saaby93 said:

lso from a drivers point of view youre less likely to see that top sign at that height unless you specifically look for it.
The bottom sign is in your normal field of view.

How do you know the height of the signs ?

The hedge might only be 6' so the signs would all be within 6' - 3' range of road surface and presumably in drivers eyeline.

[saaby93]

tubbystu said:

How do you know the height of the signs ?

There are rules for these things and its too clean
You'll see the lower sign first- it wont be lower than about 1.5 metres to prevent it covered in dirt but closer to 2.1metres.
Once youve picked out the lower sign you'll scan there are signs higher up, but whether you digest them or mainly focus on the rest of the road ahead is down to chance.
See how many people dont notice a speed sign when it's parked about 15ft feet up on top of a rash of other signs at a roundabout. There are other more pressing matters directly in field of view