Dipping a toe in the DSLR waters...
Dipping a toe in the DSLR waters...
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CommanderJameson

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22,096 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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...and the internet (which is always right, as we know) says that it's pretty much a toss-up between the Nikon D60 and the Canon EOS 1000D for a "getting started with a proper camera" camera.

Am I on the right track? At first, should I think of getting any additional equipment? They both come with an 18-55mm kit lens. (I have a camera bag)

It seems like you can get one for £300-350 - is there anything else in this price bracket I might consider?


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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If you can find a used 450d or on that would be as good or better than the 1000d.

D60 is quite old, only has 3 focus points, low resolution, lacks bracketing, body motor for non af-s lenses, mirror lockup, portrait grip etc.

Both produce great images, but then they all do that,sir...

CatJ

9,586 posts

272 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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I have started off with an Olympus E450 which I managed to pick up for just under £200 brand new. I decided that if I then really got into photography I would then upgrade.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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It depends on whether you want latest and greatest. I've only used Canons when my o/h or friends have lent me theirs, I started on Nikons

The 2 models you've listed seem a bit old though, I'm not sure if they're still for sale new and if your plan was to buy used. If Canon, the 1100D I think is the starter point. I found it too light and plasticky when I was shopping with the O/H, the 550D seemed to be a better camera and have a better feel

In Nikon world I started on the D40 a few years ago, which again is tiny. There's a Gotcha on Nikons with some of the lenses that you should be aware of, as you need AF-S lenses (which there are plenty)

Realistically you're going to run into this problem across the recent Nikon entry level ranges, which depending on your viewpoint can be a bit of a downer. You might not care.

Podie

46,649 posts

304 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Personally, I'd look for a decent bit of second hand kit.

When they came out, we bought Canon 300Ds, and outgrew them quite quickly - so moved to 20Ds.

I'm sure you can pick up a 30 or 40D for sensible money, and get a nicer lens than the kit 18-55.

dxbtiger

4,546 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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350 would get you the 1100D

http://www.camerapricebuster.com/

JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Second hand Canon 30D for around £200, and a second hand Tamron 17-50 f2.8 for around £150-£200. The Talk Photography classified forum is a good place to look, but you have to have 25 posts before you can see the classified section, so introduce yourself, start a thread similar to this one, comment on some photos that you like and job done.

There's currently a 40D on there with 18-55 IS kit lens for £360. The Tamron is a nicer lens though.

Edited by JulianHJ on Monday 23 January 09:18

CommanderJameson

Original Poster:

22,096 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Grr. My research is not being helped by it being apparently possible to insert a random number between 1 and 10000 between the word "Canon EOS" and the letter "d", and it being a valid model number.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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If you go down the Canon route you're welcome to borrow my lenses:

17-40 F4 L
24-105 F4 IS L
70-200 F4 IS L
50mm F1.8
1.4 Exii Converter

And a 430EXii Flash, you're only up the road so if its any use you're welcome.

JulianHJ

8,868 posts

291 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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XXXXD - basic DSLR
XXXD - enthusiast's DSLR
XXD - Advanced amateur/semi-pro DSLR
7D - sports-orientated advanced DSLR
5D - pro/semi-pro level
1D - big money top of the range pro DSLR

Higher numbers for the X's indicate later generation, e.g. 10D > 20D > 30D > 40D etc.

CommanderJameson

Original Poster:

22,096 posts

255 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Cheers all. The 550D is a bit more than I'd originally planned on spending, but it seems like a good second-hand buy.

If I do go down that route, I may well take you up on your very kind offer, Mark!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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A 50d used would be a better option?

McMacro

2,788 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Canon is better wink

-Pete-

2,914 posts

205 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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I'd recommend a 2nd hand Canon EOS 350D/400D/400D as a good starting point, along with a decent zoom lens f4 or better across a zoom range of up to 3x. In my opinion, Nikon bodies feel better, but lenses are not quite as good value for money. If you have friends who are into photography, see if you can borrow their gear for an hour or two, and see how they feel in your hands.

The body's the easy bit, unless you need high frame rate or insist on spot metering, most enthiusiasts end up spending their money on lenses...

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

277 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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McMacro said:
Canon is better wink
If youve only got womans hands I would agree, my 2p's worth, go into jessops or similar and at least try them out in your hand before you buy.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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Nikon is better if you have 12 fingers and at least 3 eyes...


Will admit low end nikons feel better (more solid) but canons arnt fragile.

And all the lenses will autofocus, meeter and have their aperture set... biggrin

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Monday 23rd January 2012
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The Canon Outlet seems to have gone to a 'Buy it Now' model at the moment.

Interesting prices but you need to knwo what you are looking at in terms of kit lenses.

500D. Non IS lens. £330.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...

Have a look at the 'See other items' option for 1100D and 1000D offers. One of the 1000D kits listed has an IS lens, the other not.






markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Your best bet is to try both Canon and Nikon, one will suit you, the other won't. I tried Nikon digital (having had Nikon film SLRs in the past) and didn't get on with it (to (be honest I never got on with my Nikon film bodies!), Canon just suited my hands better, nothing in particular but just a feel.

CommanderJameson

Original Poster:

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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markmullen said:
Your best bet is to try both Canon and Nikon, one will suit you, the other won't. I tried Nikon digital (having had Nikon film SLRs in the past) and didn't get on with it (to (be honest I never got on with my Nikon film bodies!), Canon just suited my hands better, nothing in particular but just a feel.
I do like the Canon menus better, having had a brief play with a Nikon a while back. My current camera is an elderly PowerShot S3 IS.

CommanderJameson

Original Poster:

22,096 posts

255 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Well, I've decided to stop kicking tyres and GIB.

Canon 550D ordered.

Edited by CommanderJameson on Tuesday 24th January 12:20