A day from giving Gibraltar to Spain
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Can't see this mentioned anywhere.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/297565/Labour-...
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/297565/Labour-...
Expess.co.uk said:
LABOUR was one day away from handing Gibraltar to Spain in a deal kept hidden from residents of the Rock, it was revealed yesterday.
Former Europe Minister Peter Hain’s memoirs disclosed details of secret talks with Spain.
He admitted being desperate to sweep away the “colonial nonsense” of British rule over the Rock and agreed a deal without letting the people of Gibraltar know.
The plot was thwarted when Tony Blair and Spanish Premier Jose Maria Aznar had second thoughts.
In his book Outside In, he also revealed Mr Blair and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw enthusiastically backed a plan for sharing sovereignty of Gibraltar that would have brought 300 years of British rule to an end.
“Jack’s desire to do something about Gibraltar coincided with my gut instinct that it was ridiculous in the modern age for Britain to have a colony on the tip of Spain nearly 2,000 miles away,” Mr Hain wrote.
Mr Blair supported the plan “because he attached great importance to a close relationship with Spain and Italy in that order,” said Mr Hain, adding: “I don’t regret what we did.”
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Former Europe Minister Peter Hain’s memoirs disclosed details of secret talks with Spain.
He admitted being desperate to sweep away the “colonial nonsense” of British rule over the Rock and agreed a deal without letting the people of Gibraltar know.
The plot was thwarted when Tony Blair and Spanish Premier Jose Maria Aznar had second thoughts.
In his book Outside In, he also revealed Mr Blair and Foreign Secretary Jack Straw enthusiastically backed a plan for sharing sovereignty of Gibraltar that would have brought 300 years of British rule to an end.
“Jack’s desire to do something about Gibraltar coincided with my gut instinct that it was ridiculous in the modern age for Britain to have a colony on the tip of Spain nearly 2,000 miles away,” Mr Hain wrote.
Mr Blair supported the plan “because he attached great importance to a close relationship with Spain and Italy in that order,” said Mr Hain, adding: “I don’t regret what we did.”
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I can believe it, this is much same as Lucas said about the Falklands on QT last week. Straight out of the same typical commie fifth column approach of the left in this country.
You are handed a winning lottery ticket in life being born in the UK and then develop some peculiar shoulder chip, given all the advantages this post war baby boomer generation by accident of birth, free (for them) university education then they realise the only way to put themselves on top of the pile is to turn us into commune or a tractor factory. Its all 6th form, uni' joined the Socialist Workers Party/Trotsky b
ks.
Selling us, the people of UK's legacy out for their social, latterly EU, experiment.
And the British "working classes" whos values they claim to trumpet, don't believe any of this ste. If Gibraltar wants to british then they had no fking business discussing it! Self determination is a basic Ooman Right.
fking troughers!
You are handed a winning lottery ticket in life being born in the UK and then develop some peculiar shoulder chip, given all the advantages this post war baby boomer generation by accident of birth, free (for them) university education then they realise the only way to put themselves on top of the pile is to turn us into commune or a tractor factory. Its all 6th form, uni' joined the Socialist Workers Party/Trotsky b
ks.Selling us, the people of UK's legacy out for their social, latterly EU, experiment.
And the British "working classes" whos values they claim to trumpet, don't believe any of this s
te. If Gibraltar wants to british then they had no fking business discussing it! Self determination is a basic Ooman Right. f
king troughers!skwdenyer said:
So, err, the Spanish premier, leader of a country that has campaigned for decades to absorb Gibralter into Spain, had second thoughts? Something strange here...
the express said:
a plan for sharing sovereignty of Gibraltar
If, indeed, it happened, it will surely have been refused on these grounds. The Spanish want total control, not some co-habiting agreement.Amateurish said:
On the other hand, it is a bit mental that we have a random colony stuck on the end of Spain. I'm sure we'd be pretty cheesed if Land's End belonged to Germany (say).
Why? If had been part of that country since long before any of us were born and the people of Land's End wished things to remain that way?May have been a bit awkward back in the 30's & 40's though
hornetrider said:
Peter Hain is a tt.
A welcome opportunity to agree with you absolutely 100%!t.Picture a new reality TV series in the tradition of Big Brother; the title is "Two Peter" and the titl sequence is strangely reminiscent of Blue Peter. Richard Bacon hosts.
The twice weekly half-hour show features Peter Hain and Peter Mandelson handcuffed together with the key sealed in a time-vault for 10 years. We see how their relationship develops over the decade as the two explore the real world outside Westminster.
Episode 1 - the plucky lads get their first job
Episode 2 - Peter H joins the anti-capitalist demo; Mandy pretends he's not there
Episode 3 - Peter M plans their holidays - beach or yacht?
Episode 4 - tea with His Toniness and Cherie
Episode 5 - ........
Ozzie Osmond said:
hornetrider said:
Peter Hain is a tt.
A welcome opportunity to agree with you absolutely 100%!t.Picture a new reality TV series in the tradition of Big Brother; the title is "Two Peter" and the titl sequence is strangely reminiscent of Blue Peter. Richard Bacon hosts.
The twice weekly half-hour show features Peter Hain and Peter Mandelson handcuffed together with the key sealed in a time-vault for 10 years. We see how their relationship develops over the decade as the two explore the real world outside Westminster.
Episode 1 - the plucky lads get their first job
Episode 2 - Peter H joins the anti-capitalist demo; Mandy pretends he's not there
Episode 3 - Peter M plans their holidays - beach or yacht?
Episode 4 - tea with His Toniness and Cherie
Episode 5 - ........
???Edited by powerstroke on Tuesday 24th January 15:16
Esseesse said:
StottyZr said:
I don't think this is true.
Really, please share why?
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