Tenant wants to move her boyfriend in - should the rent rise
Tenant wants to move her boyfriend in - should the rent rise
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Police State

Original Poster:

4,333 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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A tenant wants to have her 'new' boyfriend move into a flat, currently she is paying the rent. Should the rent be increased by a factor to reflect the benefit(s) that the boyfriend will now enjoy?. eg: rent free accomodation for the duration of the tenancy. PS, the boyfriend seems like a chancer, but she seems smitten.

What do you lot think?


Ozone

3,075 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Doesn't the rent cover the property rather than the amount of people staying in it? Unless it contravenes multiple occupancy rules i don't think the rent should change.

davepoth

29,395 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Would you have charged more at the beginning if she had had a partner then?

0a

24,081 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Police State said:
A tenant wants to have her 'new' boyfriend move into a flat, currently she is paying the rent. Should the rent be increased by a factor to reflect the benefit(s) that the boyfriend will now enjoy?. eg: rent free accomodation for the duration of the tenancy. PS, the boyfriend seems like a chancer, but she seems smitten.

What do you lot think?
Do you mean they will be sharing with others so should pay more? Or is there one person living there and there will be two (in which case it's up to her).

silvagod

1,077 posts

183 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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He isn't enjoying rent free accommodation though, his GF is paying.

Unless there was a 'single occupancy' clause in the rental agreement I would be seriously p*ssed off if my landlord increased my rent due to my partner living with me. Nothing at all to do with them as long as the rent is paid and the property is kept as agreed. Council tax sould rise though, is that her responsibility or built into the rent?

Maybe you have a no smokers, pets or partners clause? wink

Police State

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4,333 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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silvagod said:
He isn't enjoying rent free accommodation though, his GF is paying.

Unless there was a 'single occupancy' clause in the rental agreement I would be seriously p*ssed off if my landlord increased my rent due to my partner living with me. Nothing at all to do with them as long as the rent is paid and the property is kept as agreed. Council tax sould rise though, is that her responsibility or built into the rent?

Maybe you have a no smokers, pets or partners clause? wink
There is a non-assign clause (also non-sublet, This includes not allowing anyone to reside at the property for an unreasonable amount of time. For purposes of the contract, any period greater than 2 weeks is unreasonable.) in the contract. As a landlord, I would be seriously P*ssed off if tom, dick or harry rocked up, kicked off his trainers and moved in.

To answer someone else's question on another reply. The rent would have been more for a couple, but was set at a 'pragmatic' rate due to a single person's affordability.


Kudos

2,674 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Sounds to me like you got it wrong at the start and trying to make a mends now

Unreasonable in my opinion

Defcon5

6,460 posts

214 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Does her rent include bills?

Police State

Original Poster:

4,333 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Kudos said:
Sounds to me like you got it wrong at the start and trying to make a mends now

Unreasonable in my opinion
What do you mean got it wrong at the start? I'm not trying to make ammends, just reflecting on the new/change of circumstances.

Do you think it is reasonable that some stranger (new boyfriend), effectively becomes a tenant without the consent of the landlord?

Police State

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4,333 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Defcon5 said:
Does her rent include bills?
It exlcludes all utility bills, including annual maintenance charge levied by the freeholder.

zollburgers

1,284 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Did she ask you if it was OK to move him in? I suspect she was informing you rather than asking.

If you put the rent up she will probably move out.

Police State

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4,333 posts

243 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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zollburgers said:
Did she ask you if it was OK to move him in? If not how do you know?

If you put the rent up she will probably move out.
No, she did not ask. He (they) just assumed this would be ok. I made a surprise visit, and it was obvious that he had moved in. At this point, she declared his interest, and asked if it was ok. I said I would come back to her. If she moves out, that would be ok with me; I'm actually in two minds as to whether to just boot them both out now.

Mandat

4,404 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Police State said:
No, she did not ask. He (they) just assumed this would be ok. I made a surprise visit, and it was obvious that he had moved in. At this point, she declared his interest, and asked if it was ok. I said I would come back to her. If she moves out, that would be ok with me; I'm actually in two minds as to whether to just boot them both out now.
If she has a Lease or tenancy agreement then it is deemed to be her property for the duration and you making surprise visits would be in breach of the usual "quiet enjoyment" clause. As long as she is not in breach of any of the terms of the agreement, she can move in anyone that she wants and it would be no business of yours.


1point7bar

1,305 posts

171 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Mandat said:
If she has a Lease or tenancy agreement then it is deemed to be her property for the duration and you making surprise visits would be in breach of the usual "quiet enjoyment" clause. As long as she is not in breach of any of the terms of the agreement, she can move in anyone that she wants and it would be no business of yours.
How does her relationship affect you?

groak

3,254 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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I need all tenants to do 4 things

1) keep the rent right
2) keep the place in reasonable order
3) don't cause a nuisance for the neighbours or authorities
4) let me know when you're offski

see apart from that....they can do pretty well whatever they want.

0a

24,081 posts

217 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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1point7bar said:
How does her relationship affect you?
Maybe he gave a discount as an 'inducement', now she's off the market he's not so keen?

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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You sound like a bad landlord and you deserve a bad tenant, you're an amateur aren't you?
Surprise visit is well out of order.

zollburgers

1,284 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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OP your username is very appropriate.

Kudos

2,674 posts

197 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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zollburgers said:
OP your username is very appropriate.
Ha ha

rb5er

11,657 posts

195 months

Tuesday 24th January 2012
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Wear and tear will now be greater and more chance of possible damage to property due to a domestic.

But unfortunately you cant really ask for more rent but could just say you only wanted 1 person living there for the duration of the tenancy.

In future 24hrs notice before visits.