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SimonMorris

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158 posts

194 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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I'm about to move from my F430 to something else- have a few things in mind.

Just looking for a little guidance please on the finance. I have read previous threads on this subject.

My current agreement, taken in 2010, has a 9.4% APR which I know I can better.

What are the current market finance rates for borrowing £100k or thereabouts, on a variable rate (I believe interest rates will remain low)? Looking at with a balloon.

Can I have some suggestions of finance companies to approach pls.

Am in a good job so approval won't be an issue.

Much appreciate the help. Thank you.

andrew

10,365 posts

223 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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if you must finance such a large amount, is a remortgage possible ?

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Try Graeme Ough on 07725046120
His firm has some great offers for high end financing...

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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your borrowing 100g at 9%?!!!

living out of your means or what

ferdi p

1,537 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
your borrowing 100g at 9%?!!!

living out of your means or what
How did u work that out?
He may have borrowed 40k on a 100k 430
He may want to borrow 100k on a 200k 458


LukeyLikey

855 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Brave!

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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A lot will depend on what your looking for?
A V8 Fcar with a main dealer should be near 8% apr with a 50% balloon, V12 35% Ferrari know that they fall faster smile
Indie will give more consideration on the actual cars projected loss over the loan term, lower apr, 35% balloon typical

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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ferdi p said:
z4chris99 said:
your borrowing 100g at 9%?!!!

living out of your means or what
How did u work that out?
He may have borrowed 40k on a 100k 430
He may want to borrow 100k on a 200k 458
he wants to borrow 100k on a depreciating asset with probably a high interest rate which is pretty mental. Finance isn't cheap anymore, not like back in the old days.

he is very brave. much braver than me.. if he likes taking such risks maybe i can introduce him to a couple of deals I have going!


RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
he wants to borrow 100k on a depreciating asset with probably a high interest rate which is pretty mental. Finance isn't cheap anymore, not like back in the old days.

he is very brave. much braver than me.. if he likes taking such risks maybe i can introduce him to a couple of deals I have going!
100k over 3yrs maybe £500 a month of interest? Hardly that shocking if your about to spend 200k on a car.
More fun than green fee's that you don't get back either.

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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RevHappy said:
z4chris99 said:
he wants to borrow 100k on a depreciating asset with probably a high interest rate which is pretty mental. Finance isn't cheap anymore, not like back in the old days.

he is very brave. much braver than me.. if he likes taking such risks maybe i can introduce him to a couple of deals I have going!
100k over 3yrs maybe £500 a month of interest? Hardly that shocking if your about to spend 200k on a car.
More fun than green fee's that you don't get back either.
it maybe 500/600 a month, then you pay your 100k back, then your 200k 458 is worth 130k? and you've paid nigh on 30k a year to rent a 458

M3RMS

1,186 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
it maybe 500/600 a month, then you pay your 100k back, then your 200k 458 is worth 130k? and you've paid nigh on 30k a year to rent a 458
Really though, if he can afford the interest & depreciation, always has enough equity to get out of the car at any point without having to default on somebody elses money....... who really cares.

Enjoy the 458 I say. Spunk your monthly income as you see fit my friend.

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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true. you only live once.

if I was spending that cash yearly, I'd just buy second hand

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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As it won't be the newest toy in town for much longer the 18k bill over three yrs won't be the biggest number to worry about on a new 458.

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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as I said inc depreciation your looking at 30k a year

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
as I said inc depreciation your looking at 30k a year
Yup, but if no one buys new the used market would be in a sorry state biggrin bless anyone that has.

LukeyLikey

855 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th January 2012
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Might not apply if thinking about a Scud - longer term (which this purchase doesn't sound like it will be) a Scud might make more sense in depreciation terms based on rarity?

Nah. Still brave.

kbf1981

2,351 posts

231 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
as I said inc depreciation your looking at 30k a year
Which is a small part of your earnings if you're running a 458 (won't be your only car, probably got a nice place, probably have a nice lifestyle).

z4chris99

12,539 posts

210 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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in which case why borrow?

most people on high incomes borrow as the cash is better invested elsewhere, I.e a higher rate of return.

if you can afford 100k equity to spunk on a supercar, but not 200k it would suggest to me your living outside your means

OP; go for it you only live once, your a braver man than I

tuscaneer

7,989 posts

256 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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z4chris99 said:
in which case why borrow?

most people on high incomes borrow as the cash is better invested elsewhere, I.e a higher rate of return.

if you can afford 100k equity to spunk on a supercar, but not 200k it would suggest to me your living outside your means

OP; go for it you only live once, your a braver man than I
aah! but not if you can use the difference of 100k to return,say,20% somewhere else to negate the hurt of 9% on the first 100k.that amount of money invested in your own business(that you presumably understand very well)should readily create more than you pay in interest on the original 100k.to me it's all about sensible gearing.

RevHappy

1,850 posts

193 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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tuscaneer said:
aah! but not if you can use the difference of 100k to return,say,20% somewhere else to negate the hurt of 9% on the first 100k.that amount of money invested in your own business(that you presumably understand very well)should readily create more than you pay in interest on the original 100k.to me it's all about sensible gearing.
Very true, 8% apr is only about 4.1% flat? Shouldn't be that hard to beat and keeping capital liquid rather than stuck in a car has other benefits. Imagine the apr on a short term loan of 100k.....