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Sorry Mike got to agree with the rest of the guys on this one , what good is a Clutch that will support 700lbft when the gearbox/driveshafts/chasis ect will not be up to the increase , at the moment the engines will run a lot more torque but Yellowshed caps it at 540lbft to protect everything .
A smaller lighter clutch would be a better upgrade , sorry dont have a spare Clutch .Tux
A smaller lighter clutch would be a better upgrade , sorry dont have a spare Clutch .Tux
problem is no one knows for sure what the box will cope with , we have run 540lbft with no issues and to be honest why would you need more ? the car is epic with 600bhp and 540lbft of torque and its certainly at its limits when it comes to chasis control , any more power is going to mean both chasis and suspension upgrades and what would be the point ? after all poser is nothing without control !! Tux
TuxMan said:
problem is no one knows for sure what the box will cope with , we have run 540lbft with no issues and to be honest why would you need more ? the car is epic with 600bhp and 540lbft of torque and its certainly at its limits when it comes to chasis control , any more power is going to mean both chasis and suspension upgrades and what would be the point ? after all poser is nothing without control !! Tux
Got to agree with you there Tuxn nice idea to have a Noble clutch but without the other bits like driveshaft and gearbox what would be the point, atbh I wouldn't want more power than I have, I believe the chassis is already at its limit with 550ftlb,I have my first track day Feb the 5th and will go for broke if its dry to see how all the mods On my car hold up and I would like to say I was confident that she will finish the day and not the day finishing her, we will see?
I am filming the day so will post my results, I'm getting nervously existed .
Gadgeroonie said:
no one has broken one yet to my knowledge - the gearbox man thinks they can take more
Mike, suggest you come out for a ride ontrack with one of us, 500 bhp / 450 lbs is great power for a lot of circuits & is ideal usable power.600 bhp / 550 lbs is on another level & unless everything else on your car is properly sorted you really are never going to be able to use other than bragging rights down the pub !
I am after something more like super car - not a track car
something a bit insane like a koenigsegg
Supercars are about excitement and intimidation
this video kind of sums it up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhR2lXJNg3M
and this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj7D1zTSBc
I work in the Dynamometer industry so HP is more important to me than most
something a bit insane like a koenigsegg
Supercars are about excitement and intimidation
this video kind of sums it up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhR2lXJNg3M
and this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyj7D1zTSBc
I work in the Dynamometer industry so HP is more important to me than most
Hey Mike,
if it is a case of producing numbers on a dyno for showcasing then that is a different matter and my friend did the same recently, he has a dyno and spent alot of money getting an EVo to 1100whp and it did gain a lot of attention.... but after he proved it was possible he now has the car running at 700bhp......but thats 4wd and still only good for drag racing....
cant you find a way of producing more bhp at higher rpm without increasing the torque?...you dont want a car that just loses traction everytime you touch the pedal...
if it is a case of producing numbers on a dyno for showcasing then that is a different matter and my friend did the same recently, he has a dyno and spent alot of money getting an EVo to 1100whp and it did gain a lot of attention.... but after he proved it was possible he now has the car running at 700bhp......but thats 4wd and still only good for drag racing....
cant you find a way of producing more bhp at higher rpm without increasing the torque?...you dont want a car that just loses traction everytime you touch the pedal...
Mike, i just opened those links, i am also a big fan of events like the texas mile, i think if you are wanting to create one of those monsters i personally would start with a different base model, it would be great fun to build something intimidating and crazy on acceleration, these Gallardo TT do 100-200kmh in 3.3 secs, compare to a Carrera Gt in 6.8 secs and its mind blowing just how fast these things are, i think a 620bhp, 550lb/ft Noble would do 100-200kmh in 5.4 seconds and that is also very very fast, if you can create a high revving engine that will allow you to do 100-200kmh in 4th gear, you may get sub 5, i personally would not try and aim any higher with this car, it will be very scary.
Your choice though at the end of the day, but if i were to do this then i would consider going the whole hog, turn the engine, elongate the chassis, match up a sequential box with gear system and get it all properly sorted for being a contender..
Your choice though at the end of the day, but if i were to do this then i would consider going the whole hog, turn the engine, elongate the chassis, match up a sequential box with gear system and get it all properly sorted for being a contender..
Andy, is the 650 ftlb clutch the one you also used in your kit car ?
i guess 4wd would be preffered for the sort of car I am looking to build
with the prices of the GTR slipping now and 600 hp available from airfilter/remap/exhaust it may be a better base to start from
but hey i like a crazy car - I already own a 400 hp fiesta !
you get to learn how to drive around the limits of traction with reduced boost/gear selected and sometimes just letting it spin till the road speed catches up
i guess 4wd would be preffered for the sort of car I am looking to build
with the prices of the GTR slipping now and 600 hp available from airfilter/remap/exhaust it may be a better base to start from
but hey i like a crazy car - I already own a 400 hp fiesta !
you get to learn how to drive around the limits of traction with reduced boost/gear selected and sometimes just letting it spin till the road speed catches up
Gadgeroonie said:
shame its such a big old lump
but on the plus side it has 4 seats and comfy seats !
You driven one? I found the feeling of mass far less than I was expecting when I had Pete's 650bhp version for the weekend.but on the plus side it has 4 seats and comfy seats !
I've the new (2011 model) Black version all this weekend as well so I'll see how it's progressed.
J
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