Does anyone run a new VAG 1.6 TDI eco-mobile?
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Has anyone got one of these?
I'm looking for an economical, motorway slogger company car and the Octavia/Superb/Passat/A3 1.6 TDI seem to be the solution.
Would the eco models feel a bit wheezy in comparison to my old 2005 2.0 TDI Golf? (140PS)
I have figured out that I need an average of 60 MPG for the mileage payments to cover the fuel costs.
Any other suggestions for a true 60 MPG motor?
I'm looking for an economical, motorway slogger company car and the Octavia/Superb/Passat/A3 1.6 TDI seem to be the solution.
Would the eco models feel a bit wheezy in comparison to my old 2005 2.0 TDI Golf? (140PS)
I have figured out that I need an average of 60 MPG for the mileage payments to cover the fuel costs.
Any other suggestions for a true 60 MPG motor?
Probably slow and wheezy yes. Small Diesel + tall gearing, not a recipe for briskness
I would though, if you must go for such a thing, stay away from the larger cars like the passat and superb. Just too small an engine to be lugging all that weight around. A small hatch like the A3 would be a better bet as long as its not going to be a poverty spec machine. You want arm rest and cruise for the motorway slog at the very least.
I would though, if you must go for such a thing, stay away from the larger cars like the passat and superb. Just too small an engine to be lugging all that weight around. A small hatch like the A3 would be a better bet as long as its not going to be a poverty spec machine. You want arm rest and cruise for the motorway slog at the very least.
FreeLitres said:
Has anyone got one of these?
I'm looking for an economical, motorway slogger company car and the Octavia/Superb/Passat/A3 1.6 TDI seem to be the solution.
Would the eco models feel a bit wheezy in comparison to my old 2005 2.0 TDI Golf? (140PS)
I have figured out that I need an average of 60 MPG for the mileage payments to cover the fuel costs.
Any other suggestions for a true 60 MPG motor?
I had a 2010 Passat 2.0 110BHP bluemotion. Great car. Easily averaged 63-65mpg. One 27 mile run i averaged 93, yes 93mpg. I'm looking for an economical, motorway slogger company car and the Octavia/Superb/Passat/A3 1.6 TDI seem to be the solution.
Would the eco models feel a bit wheezy in comparison to my old 2005 2.0 TDI Golf? (140PS)
I have figured out that I need an average of 60 MPG for the mileage payments to cover the fuel costs.
Any other suggestions for a true 60 MPG motor?
It was possible to get 1,000 miles to a tank of fuel.
No massive ball of fire, but a very driveable car.
I have the 1.6TDI A3 and get nowhere near the paper figures for mpg.
I haven't updated my chart thingy for a while but last time I did it had averaged 48.3mpg over 20k (ish) miles.
My driving is a mix of long 100mile motorway/ duel carriageway runs and town driving. In the last few months I've tried getting the figure a bit higher (next car won't have a fuel card like this one does) and can get mid 50's on long motorway runs if I rigidly stay below 80 (indicated)
If you've been running the 2.0TDI's in the past it will feel underpowered too.
I haven't updated my chart thingy for a while but last time I did it had averaged 48.3mpg over 20k (ish) miles.
My driving is a mix of long 100mile motorway/ duel carriageway runs and town driving. In the last few months I've tried getting the figure a bit higher (next car won't have a fuel card like this one does) and can get mid 50's on long motorway runs if I rigidly stay below 80 (indicated)
If you've been running the 2.0TDI's in the past it will feel underpowered too.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Probably slow and wheezy yes. Small Diesel + tall gearing, not a recipe for briskness
I would though, if you must go for such a thing, stay away from the larger cars like the passat and superb. Just too small an engine to be lugging all that weight around. A small hatch like the A3 would be a better bet as long as its not going to be a poverty spec machine. You want arm rest and cruise for the motorway slog at the very least.
Having actually owned a Bluemotion Pasast i totally disagree. Not slow OR wheezy, certainly very capable of keeping up with traffic.I would though, if you must go for such a thing, stay away from the larger cars like the passat and superb. Just too small an engine to be lugging all that weight around. A small hatch like the A3 would be a better bet as long as its not going to be a poverty spec machine. You want arm rest and cruise for the motorway slog at the very least.
Cruise control comes as standard on the Passat Bluemotion but from memory is / was an optional extra on the golf.
Edited by daemon on Saturday 28th January 22:11
I'm not looking for a hot hatch or anything sporty. I just want something comfortable for regular 4+ hour trips across the UK and wider Europe. I don’t want something that is going to make me tear my hair out though.
If the car gets a true average of over 60 mpg, I will make a bit of money on mileage. Anything less than a true average of 60 mpg and I will be spending more in fuel than the mileage payments cover.
The 140 PS 2.0 TDI states an average of 61.4 MPG (Estate)
The 105 PS 1.6 TDI suggests 65.7 MPG which allows for more traffic jams, etc.
Weren’t the old boggo-spec 1.9 TDIs about 105 PS as standard?
If the car gets a true average of over 60 mpg, I will make a bit of money on mileage. Anything less than a true average of 60 mpg and I will be spending more in fuel than the mileage payments cover.
The 140 PS 2.0 TDI states an average of 61.4 MPG (Estate)
The 105 PS 1.6 TDI suggests 65.7 MPG which allows for more traffic jams, etc.
Weren’t the old boggo-spec 1.9 TDIs about 105 PS as standard?
FreeLitres said:
I'm not looking for a hot hatch or anything sporty. I just want something comfortable for regular 4+ hour trips across the UK and wider Europe. I don’t want something that is going to make me tear my hair out though.
If the car gets a true average of over 60 mpg, I will make a bit of money on mileage. Anything less than a true average of 60 mpg and I will be spending more in fuel than the mileage payments cover.
The 140 PS 2.0 TDI states an average of 61.4 MPG (Estate)
The 105 PS 1.6 TDI suggests 65.7 MPG which allows for more traffic jams, etc.
Weren’t the old boggo-spec 1.9 TDIs about 105 PS as standard?
The true Bluemotion 1.6 has a combined figure of 68mpg, as opposed to 61mpg on the 'regular' 140BHP car (with bluemotion tech). If the car gets a true average of over 60 mpg, I will make a bit of money on mileage. Anything less than a true average of 60 mpg and I will be spending more in fuel than the mileage payments cover.
The 140 PS 2.0 TDI states an average of 61.4 MPG (Estate)
The 105 PS 1.6 TDI suggests 65.7 MPG which allows for more traffic jams, etc.
Weren’t the old boggo-spec 1.9 TDIs about 105 PS as standard?
The older passats were 105BHP, yes.
daemon said:
Having actually owned a Bluemotion Pasast i totally disagree. Not slow OR wheezy, certainly very capable of keeping up with traffic.
Cruise control comes as standard on the Passat Bluemotion but from memory is / was an optional extra on the golf.
daemon - was yours an actual Bluemotion spec, or an S or SE "with Bluemotion technology"?Cruise control comes as standard on the Passat Bluemotion but from memory is / was an optional extra on the golf.
I have looked at the "true" Bluemotion model, but the spec is missing a few items that I want and they limit you as to what you can add on.
ETA: In Saloon, there seems to be the options of -
Bluemotion 1.6, Avg mpg = 68.9
S/SE/Sport 1.6 with Bluemotion technology, Avg mpg = 65.7
S/SE/Sport 2.0 140PS with Bluemotion technology, Avg mpg = 61.4
Sport 2.0 170PS with Bluetooth technology, Avg mpg = 61.4 (Same as 140PS?????)
Edited by FreeLitres on Saturday 28th January 22:33
Personally i WOULD go for the bigger car. Bigger cars generally = more comfort on long runs, plus you'll have a bit more space around you.
Plus you should be able to negotiate a better deal on a Passat than on the ever popular Golf. I got mine for £16,250 brand new from a main dealer, when a Bluemotion Golf would have cost me an easy £17,500.
Plus you should be able to negotiate a better deal on a Passat than on the ever popular Golf. I got mine for £16,250 brand new from a main dealer, when a Bluemotion Golf would have cost me an easy £17,500.
I averaged about 50mpg over a couple of hundred miles in a hired Golf with that engine, but that included some shorter journeys, mostly A-roads in southern scotland.
It's quick enough when it needs to be, didn't really feel lacking. Stats are very similar to the older 2.0 110bhp diesel.
It's quick enough when it needs to be, didn't really feel lacking. Stats are very similar to the older 2.0 110bhp diesel.
sjg said:
I averaged about 50mpg over a couple of hundred miles in a hired Golf with that engine, but that included some shorter journeys, mostly A-roads in southern scotland.
It's quick enough when it needs to be, didn't really feel lacking. Stats are very similar to the older 2.0 110bhp diesel.
50 mpg would end up costing me money It's quick enough when it needs to be, didn't really feel lacking. Stats are very similar to the older 2.0 110bhp diesel.
Were you driving hard?
I had a golf bluemotion as a hire car the other week. No idea which engine, didn't feel particularily fast but neither was it lacking in anyway.
Drove it over some fairly difficult highland roads with some long climbs and overtaking all the way up to Portree.
I didnt find the fuel computer until on the way back - and it showed 69.5 MPG!!
I managed around 240 miles on quarter of a tank and wasn't exactly going slow.
It was dull but did the job well and what it said on the tin, excellent commuting car really.
I know 240 miles doesnt say much, but given it was a hire car
it was quite impressive. I just liked the way it wasn't slow or fast and did its job without fuss.
Drove it over some fairly difficult highland roads with some long climbs and overtaking all the way up to Portree.
I didnt find the fuel computer until on the way back - and it showed 69.5 MPG!!
I managed around 240 miles on quarter of a tank and wasn't exactly going slow.
It was dull but did the job well and what it said on the tin, excellent commuting car really.
I know 240 miles doesnt say much, but given it was a hire car
it was quite impressive. I just liked the way it wasn't slow or fast and did its job without fuss.I have a 2011 VW Golf 1.6 TDi Bluemotion Tech SE (Estate).
As of tonight, the onboard computer tells me I'm averaging 54mpg. (That depends how accurate the computer is of course....)
Now I carry a boot full of heavy kit at all times so my mpg will be lower than most. I also like to drive "enthusiastically" so again not good for mpg. I do get over 600 miles out of a tank without trying though.
It's not the fastest car out there, but I don't have too much trouble overtaking or getting upto a reasonable speed quickly. It does have long gear ratios and it will feel a lot slower than your current Golf.
Company car tax wise, it's only £43 a month. As said above, mines an SE so has a good factory spec e.g. Auto lights, auto wipers, cruise control, heated motors and alarm etc.
As of tonight, the onboard computer tells me I'm averaging 54mpg. (That depends how accurate the computer is of course....)
Now I carry a boot full of heavy kit at all times so my mpg will be lower than most. I also like to drive "enthusiastically" so again not good for mpg. I do get over 600 miles out of a tank without trying though.
It's not the fastest car out there, but I don't have too much trouble overtaking or getting upto a reasonable speed quickly. It does have long gear ratios and it will feel a lot slower than your current Golf.
Company car tax wise, it's only £43 a month. As said above, mines an SE so has a good factory spec e.g. Auto lights, auto wipers, cruise control, heated motors and alarm etc.
I have been running a B7 1.6 Bluemotion Passat since April, and had a B6 1.9 Passat previous to that for 3 years and 90k miles.
My day to day driving is about 70% motorway and A roads, and an annual summer holiday to France 5 up, fully loaded, roof box and 80 mph on the Auto routes.
Over the life of the B6 it averaged 54 mpg, and the B7 is averaging exactly 60 mpg to date.
Best run I have had has been 80mpg driving as efficiently as possible (and looking a complete coc*!)
My day to day driving is about 70% motorway and A roads, and an annual summer holiday to France 5 up, fully loaded, roof box and 80 mph on the Auto routes.
Over the life of the B6 it averaged 54 mpg, and the B7 is averaging exactly 60 mpg to date.
Best run I have had has been 80mpg driving as efficiently as possible (and looking a complete coc*!)
FreeLitres said:
daemon said:
Having actually owned a Bluemotion Pasast i totally disagree. Not slow OR wheezy, certainly very capable of keeping up with traffic.
Cruise control comes as standard on the Passat Bluemotion but from memory is / was an optional extra on the golf.
daemon - was yours an actual Bluemotion spec, or an S or SE "with Bluemotion technology"?Cruise control comes as standard on the Passat Bluemotion but from memory is / was an optional extra on the golf.
I have looked at the "true" Bluemotion model, but the spec is missing a few items that I want and they limit you as to what you can add on.
ETA: In Saloon, there seems to be the options of -
Bluemotion 1.6, Avg mpg = 68.9
S/SE/Sport 1.6 with Bluemotion technology, Avg mpg = 65.7
S/SE/Sport 2.0 140PS with Bluemotion technology, Avg mpg = 61.4
Sport 2.0 170PS with Bluetooth technology, Avg mpg = 61.4 (Same as 140PS?????)
Edited by FreeLitres on Saturday 28th January 22:33
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