Motorists to be hit with £100 speeding fines - Ken Clarke
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Motorists to be hit with £100 speeding fines to support victims - Ken Clarke
Telegraph said:
Motorists face a huge hike in speeding fines to as much as £100 to help fill a funding gap for victims of crime, Kenneth Clarke revealed yesterday.
Drivers could see standard £60 fines increase by 60 per cent with £20 of the extra income being ploughed in to victim services, even though there is no direct victim in many motoring offences.
And those who go to court to challenge speeding tickets or for more serious driving offences could pay up to £120 in to the programme.
Drivers could see standard £60 fines increase by 60 per cent with £20 of the extra income being ploughed in to victim services, even though there is no direct victim in many motoring offences.
And those who go to court to challenge speeding tickets or for more serious driving offences could pay up to £120 in to the programme.
The points are, I agree, the worst part. However a 60% rise hardly sits well with TORIES END 'WAR ON MOTORISTS'. It makes one rather cynical to say the least.
It's typical 'nickel and diming' tactics of the sort that governments everywhere use when they need cash but don't want to be seen to raise taxes.
Speeding is a potentially massively lucrative cash cow for the government as everyone does it frequently due to the stupidly low arbitrary limits that are set. It's a dead easy 'crime' to detect since you simply set a speed and observe someone going faster than the posted limit. Job done, crime figures improved and money in the bank.
The problem is that raising the fines will be self defeating as it'll probably result in many people going slower so they'd need to improve detection rates to keep their numbers up. However, if they are much more effective in detecting speeders they risk killing the goose that laid the golden egg as 12 points - 4 offences or possibly less - and the person is off the road for a year.
I would suspect we will shortly see changes to reduce the number of points you get for speeding in tandem with much higher fines or even have speeding offences with zero points but a fine instead, for being just slightly over the limit.
Easy enough to sell to the braindead general public as being 'for the safety of the children' or some such tosh and keeps the money coming in to keep our elite in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
Speeding is a potentially massively lucrative cash cow for the government as everyone does it frequently due to the stupidly low arbitrary limits that are set. It's a dead easy 'crime' to detect since you simply set a speed and observe someone going faster than the posted limit. Job done, crime figures improved and money in the bank.
The problem is that raising the fines will be self defeating as it'll probably result in many people going slower so they'd need to improve detection rates to keep their numbers up. However, if they are much more effective in detecting speeders they risk killing the goose that laid the golden egg as 12 points - 4 offences or possibly less - and the person is off the road for a year.
I would suspect we will shortly see changes to reduce the number of points you get for speeding in tandem with much higher fines or even have speeding offences with zero points but a fine instead, for being just slightly over the limit.
Easy enough to sell to the braindead general public as being 'for the safety of the children' or some such tosh and keeps the money coming in to keep our elite in the manner to which they have become accustomed.
Funding gap for victims of crime? I know, how about you fill the funding gap for victims of crime by taking the money off actual convicted scumbag criminals i.e. burglars, ABH/GBH assaulters etc. and if they ain't got any money, none of this paltry £5 payment per week for 3 years stuff, seize anything and everything non-essential to them to fill up any shortfall? Ohhh no, that's not as easy as raping people who want to travel at 80 on a motorway, because you know they can and will pay.
mackay45 said:
It is £60 at the moment right?
It's the points that scare me, not the fine. Double it and get rid of the points and I would be a happy man (as long as that meant you no longer had to inform insurance co).
(Above is hypothetical as I never speed).
Isn't that similar to how the yanks do it? They just issue tickets/fines but don't have to inform their insurance.It's the points that scare me, not the fine. Double it and get rid of the points and I would be a happy man (as long as that meant you no longer had to inform insurance co).
(Above is hypothetical as I never speed).
At least that's what I thought anyway. I'd be all for that.
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