Lana Del Rey - Born to Die - Album
Lana Del Rey - Born to Die - Album
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Zaxxon

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4,057 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Has anyone else got this yet? It was released on Monday.

Very impressed so far, mixing the slow, haunting sound of Video Games and Born to Die with more upbeat almost Lady Ga Ga style songs.

Really good album, the second song (Off to the Races) is my favorite so far, and Radio is good also.

CooperD

3,172 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Ordered it from Amazon on Tuesday. Agree about Off To The Races, superb track.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

235 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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I think it's wonderful - a great album.

But boy does the girl cop some st from the music press - who seem to absolutely hate her.

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Thanks for reminding me that it's out - just bought and downloading the album (£4.99) now from Amazon...

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 2nd February 2012
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Mr Gearchange said:
I think it's wonderful - a great album.

But boy does the girl cop some st from the music press - who seem to absolutely hate her.
The hype was insane - I think they were expecting a cross between Jesus and Michael Jackson or something, so it's understandable why they're upset because it's merely good.

Straight6DOHC

252 posts

211 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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I'm enjoying the album too. Blue Jeans and Born to Die are my favourites but every single track has some catchy element to it and it's been a long time since I've been able to say that about an album. I don't read the music press any more but caught on from this forum that things had gone sour somewhere recently - her past history/not all she's cracked up to be/ pulling out of appearances etc etc.
So, instantly likeable music - probably sell shedloads then.


stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Another Dido.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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stephen300o said:
Another Dido.
Misread that on first glance, as you do. smile

steadyup

14 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Superb album, best one I've bought for ages. love track two. Can't get enough of it..........smile

Turn7

25,676 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Sadly XFM are doing their very best to drive me insane with the current songs endless plays.

crystalmethod

1,320 posts

208 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Didn't expect anything, and what she's made is fking brilliant. Genuine talent...

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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crystalmethod said:
Didn't expect anything, and what some balding middle aged producers (9 of them in this case) have made is fking brilliant. Genuine talent...
EFA. wink

Zaxxon

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4,057 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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davepoth said:
crystalmethod said:
Didn't expect anything, and what some balding middle aged producers (9 of them in this case) have made is fking brilliant. Genuine talent...
EFA. wink
Bet you havn't listened to the album

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Zaxxon said:
davepoth said:
crystalmethod said:
Didn't expect anything, and what some balding middle aged producers (9 of them in this case) have made is fking brilliant. Genuine talent...
EFA. wink
Bet you havn't listened to the album
No I haven't. However what I have done is checked the writing credits, and it's quite clear that she did not have full creative control over the album given that 9 other people have writing credits on there. So my comment regarding balding middle aged producers making the record stands. They may have made an excellent record, I'm not denying that, but it wasn't recorded alone in Miss Grant's bedroom.

Zaxxon

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4,057 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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davepoth said:
No I haven't. However what I have done is checked the writing credits, and it's quite clear that she did not have full creative control over the album given that 9 other people have writing credits on there. So my comment regarding balding middle aged producers making the record stands. They may have made an excellent record, I'm not denying that, but it wasn't recorded alone in Miss Grant's bedroom.
Is any non indie album nowadays?

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Zaxxon said:
Is any non indie album nowadays?
Well no. And some indie albums aren't either these days. wink

The "packaging" has been done very well in this case. She is however not the best singer in the world from the bits I've heard (technically and in terms of vocal range anyway), and didn't write a significant proportion of the record.

It's very rare to find someone who is the "real deal" and has both the performing and songwriting skills. As I said, from what I've heard it's very good, but I get the impression she was in the right place, at the right time, with the right producers.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Gaz. said:
davepoth said:
No I haven't. However what I have done is checked the writing credits, and it's quite clear that she did not have full creative control over the album given that 9 other people have writing credits on there. So my comment regarding balding middle aged producers making the record stands. They may have made an excellent record, I'm not denying that, but it wasn't recorded alone in Miss Grant's bedroom.
I don't see why it matters? You either like the music or you don't.
It doesn't. I was referring to Thecrystalmethod's comment that she is a "real talent", when the full picture is slightly more nuanced. wink

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Gaz. said:
Not really, if she didn't have any real talent she wouldn't have got this far. Can she sing? yes, can she write? yes, did she have a lot of help with writing and production on this album? yes but so what? It's hardly Milli Vanilli smoke and mirrors is it.
It's a semantic argument; she has real talent for songwriting and singing, but she is not "a real talent" in the way the recording industry would use the term. It's a subtly different meaning.

Zaxxon

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4,057 posts

189 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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Agree with what your saying there Dave, but I think your looking at it too deeply. It's the same as what the music journolists are doing. It's a great album, one of the best that I have bought in the last year. That's all.

If we look back in 5 years and realise that she's another Dido that has faded away, oh well. At least we have this album to listen to.

Truly great talents who sing,write and sweat their own amazing music are a rare thing these days. And without BBC 6 music, I doubt we would ever hear any of it. I'm currently enjoying Lykke Li and The Do's.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th February 2012
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It's always been the way though - it's very rare you get an act that do it completely by themselves - Radiohead strike me as one, possibly Pink Floyd before them. But generally for every group of hip youngsters, there's been a fat man chewing a cigar in the shadows behind them.