Ferrari puzzled with GT-R
Discussion
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/bmw-m5-vs-nissa...
This is just as impressive, I've got to say I'm warming to the GT-R
This is just as impressive, I've got to say I'm warming to the GT-R
I would certainly love to have access to that kind of performance, had a head to head roll with a 2009 GT-R and it pulled several car lengths from 50-100 but couldn't pull away at all above those speeds. I have no doubt the 2012 model would just shoot off into the distance.
I REALLY don't want one though. Never actually been in one and don't have any desire to. I suppose that alone speaks volumes.
Mind you, this coming from someone that's just traded one of the world's greatest NA V10 for a twin-turbo diesel!
I REALLY don't want one though. Never actually been in one and don't have any desire to. I suppose that alone speaks volumes.
Mind you, this coming from someone that's just traded one of the world's greatest NA V10 for a twin-turbo diesel!
Destroyed an Enzo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V04UBC4IJpI
Surely Ferrari should be able to make a car of this performance?
How can someone like Ferrari not understand how Nissan can get it to go so fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V04UBC4IJpI
Surely Ferrari should be able to make a car of this performance?
How can someone like Ferrari not understand how Nissan can get it to go so fast.
amazing car....
outright speed and acceleration has never interested me much and a car appeals in so many different ways on many many different levels .. but yuo have to hand it to the Nissan, it completely defies its own spec sheet and is an amazing achievement that has stirred up the world of fast cars and all for the better
outright speed and acceleration has never interested me much and a car appeals in so many different ways on many many different levels .. but yuo have to hand it to the Nissan, it completely defies its own spec sheet and is an amazing achievement that has stirred up the world of fast cars and all for the better
i am sure it is to do with the fact that the GTR has the most advanced AWD system in the world..... may be wrong, but the AWD in the r32 skyline had links to that developed for the 959, and nissan have been developing this system since then...... irrespective of the fact that the engine outputs may be better than as stated in the factory figures, this is a japanese thing.... for a 1700kg car to hit 100 in 7.35 secs without lauch control is frankly ridiculous..... will own one one day, almost bought before i got the gallardo, just to experience this sort of traction etc.... agree with UH Matt the looks do nothing for me either..
Like it or hate it, it is an machine that you have to give respect. It does 99.99% what all the super cars can do, without all the questions on realiability and also has a decent boot!
Its not a car i would buy with my heart, like the other more exotic cars on the forum.
I respect the car and when ever i see one give it a good look at, even as much as i would look at any ferrari or lambo etc...
i would have one in a car collection, but not as my only car.
What the nissan does in my view, is make you question why you spend nearly double for a porsche, ferrari, lambo etc...
Driving experience should be considered, but i havent driven one so cant comment on that.
Its not a car i would buy with my heart, like the other more exotic cars on the forum.
I respect the car and when ever i see one give it a good look at, even as much as i would look at any ferrari or lambo etc...
i would have one in a car collection, but not as my only car.
What the nissan does in my view, is make you question why you spend nearly double for a porsche, ferrari, lambo etc...
Driving experience should be considered, but i havent driven one so cant comment on that.
Track version is out which is light weight without the rear seats. It must be insane in performance.
some great videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LczigKoWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjmtsKdrtkU
some great videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LczigKoWw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjmtsKdrtkU
Edited by AmoCS on Saturday 4th February 14:18
The GTR always seemed like a car I would never appreciate based on fundamentals like size and weight. I started to read up about it on the GTR specific forums and realized it's basically an affordable Veyron - with likewise intense servicing requirements. It's engineering on the edge of the envelope. Really have a lot more respect for it now after studying it. There's one guy in America who drives his aggressively and does most of the servicing himself, blends his own oil, has the oil analyzed after each use including the tranny oil.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/user/1730...
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/311...
It's just an amazing, effective design. Still not my cup of tea but if they would affordably strip it out and make it weigh less. Any Ferrari really isn't comparable to the GTR, two different creatures. I was and still am puzzled by Godzilla.
ETA - various early
mistakes
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/user/1730...
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?/topic/311...
It's just an amazing, effective design. Still not my cup of tea but if they would affordably strip it out and make it weigh less. Any Ferrari really isn't comparable to the GTR, two different creatures. I was and still am puzzled by Godzilla.
ETA - various early
mistakesEdited by PiB on Saturday 4th February 14:50
70proof said:
i am sure it is to do with the fact that the GTR has the most advanced AWD system in the world..... may be wrong, but the AWD in the r32 skyline had links to that developed for the 959, and nissan have been developing this system since then...... irrespective of the fact that the engine outputs may be better than as stated in the factory figures, this is a japanese thing.... for a 1700kg car to hit 100 in 7.35 secs without lauch control is frankly ridiculous..... will own one one day, almost bought before i got the gallardo, just to experience this sort of traction etc.... agree with UH Matt the looks do nothing for me either..
Without being all anoraky about it, the R35 uses a quite different 4WD system to the earlier Skylines.It only works as a 4WD until the steering angle exceeds 15deg then its all RWD. The torque transfer back to the front axle is entirely different.
What it has is a torque rich turbocharged motor (Achieving at least as much bhp as Nissan claim) perfect traction, great weight distribution and the best DCT transmission yet made (Including Ferraris new equivalent)
But the best bit is that for a few grand you can make it even better. In 700 bhp,Bilstein/Eibach suspension and Akrapovic titanium exhaust config there is just nothing on earth that can match it.
An amazing piece of engineering.
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