Bizzare claims from Brunstrom
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Rhyl Visitor paper has Brunstrom claiming, “Cameras cut deaths on roads”
He claims there are fewer deaths after the installation of speed cameras in the North Wales area. ( they actually rose by 11%)
He then stuns by claiming, “3431 people died as a result of no speed cameras on roads in Britain last year” (so every death on our roads is caused by someone breaking a speed limit. (it used to be “the one third lie”; is it now the 100% lie?)
He further claims that around 80% of the public support speed cameras.
Anyone able to get the cutting on PH for me? Have circulated widely.
He claims there are fewer deaths after the installation of speed cameras in the North Wales area. ( they actually rose by 11%)
He then stuns by claiming, “3431 people died as a result of no speed cameras on roads in Britain last year” (so every death on our roads is caused by someone breaking a speed limit. (it used to be “the one third lie”; is it now the 100% lie?)
He further claims that around 80% of the public support speed cameras.
Anyone able to get the cutting on PH for me? Have circulated widely.
james_j said:
He's not still churning out his BS is he?
Or is this what has been discussed recently? (Maybe the Rhyl Visitor paper is just reproducing recent stuff.) How recent were these rantings?
>> Edited by james_j on Friday 9th July 19:07
He is now going further than ever. These rants were published this Wednesday.
He is also claiming "There are 60 fewer people who die on roads in North Wales each year"
Where on earth does he get that from?
. Then agian he does seem to do and say as he pleases, perhaps he is 
As mentioned, I circulated this report to several folks with a copy to myself to check delivery.
So far it has not arrived. This is very odd. Has it been intercepted?
I am curious because I am aware of a possible tampering with my phone line. One extension phone emits a 'peep' when it is put down and my wife knows when I go on-line because she hears the peep as the modem connects.
For some time now, I have heard this peeping noise in the early hours of the morning, sometimes two or three times a week; the noise awakens me. Two weeks ago I managed to pick up the phone during the event and the line was dead; then the dialling tone returned. This is too regular to be a line fault and the peeping is never heard during the day, other than when the modem connects.
I have had many letters published drawing attention to the lies we are told on speed camera success and wonder if the spooks are tapping my phone.
Anyone know if this is legal and/or possible and/or likely?
So far it has not arrived. This is very odd. Has it been intercepted?
I am curious because I am aware of a possible tampering with my phone line. One extension phone emits a 'peep' when it is put down and my wife knows when I go on-line because she hears the peep as the modem connects.
For some time now, I have heard this peeping noise in the early hours of the morning, sometimes two or three times a week; the noise awakens me. Two weeks ago I managed to pick up the phone during the event and the line was dead; then the dialling tone returned. This is too regular to be a line fault and the peeping is never heard during the day, other than when the modem connects.
I have had many letters published drawing attention to the lies we are told on speed camera success and wonder if the spooks are tapping my phone.
Anyone know if this is legal and/or possible and/or likely?
Tafia said:
As mentioned, I circulated this report to several folks with a copy to myself to check delivery.
So far it has not arrived. This is very odd. Has it been intercepted?
I am curious because I am aware of a possible tampering with my phone line. One extension phone emits a 'peep' when it is put down and my wife knows when I go on-line because she hears the peep as the modem connects.
For some time now, I have heard this peeping noise in the early hours of the morning, sometimes two or three times a week; the noise awakens me. Two weeks ago I managed to pick up the phone during the event and the line was dead; then the dialling tone returned. This is too regular to be a line fault and the peeping is never heard during the day, other than when the modem connects.
I have had many letters published drawing attention to the lies we are told on speed camera success and wonder if the spooks are tapping my phone.
Anyone know if this is legal and/or possible and/or likely?
Reckon you have a faulty phone mate. The noise might be the "squarker" that is put on the line when a phone is off the hook.
Hold on...BliarOut said:
Reckon you have a faulty phone mate. The noise might be the "squarker" that is put on the line when a phone is off the hook.
The noise also occurs when this phone is replaced in the cradle.
I doubt a fault due to the regularity of the occurrence; always between 02.30 and 04.00 hrs, never heard it during the day.
Surely brunstrom is doing drugs or talking to too many `yes` men if he really beleives his 80% in support lie?
He needs to get real, and people need to wake up to his lies.
The roads are getting dangerous because of cameras, more and more lately ive noticed people driving at 50-60mph in the overtaking lanes of motorways, daudling and hanging around in drivers blind spots , totally oblivious to the danger they are causing to other road users!
He needs to get real, and people need to wake up to his lies.
The roads are getting dangerous because of cameras, more and more lately ive noticed people driving at 50-60mph in the overtaking lanes of motorways, daudling and hanging around in drivers blind spots , totally oblivious to the danger they are causing to other road users!
If you keep repeating the lies long enough, people will believe you. I reckon they only need to keep the population fooled for another year or so and there will be so many self-funding cameras, and so many vested interests from budgets that have come to rely on the income, that we will never be rid of them. Once they're sufficiently widespread the anti-camera lobby will have no evidence against them because it will be impossible to prove whether or not they make the roads safer.
On the phone thing: I've worked on telephone systems in the past, and this sounds a lot like the line test system we used. Basically there was a dedicated line test card that sent a complicated signal down the phone lines, and analysed the return to work out if there were any line faults. It was only possible to test one line at a time, so we worked through the lines one by one during quiet periods of the day. The test signal was carefully designed not to trigger the bell, but it was never far off and on some lines you would get a brief tinkle from a mechnical bell or a 'chirp' from an electronic one. My guess is there is a fault on your line or your handset. Couldn't say whether this is caused by the FBI line tap, visiting aliens or something more mundane though.
>> Edited by GreenV8S on Saturday 10th July 11:52
On the phone thing: I've worked on telephone systems in the past, and this sounds a lot like the line test system we used. Basically there was a dedicated line test card that sent a complicated signal down the phone lines, and analysed the return to work out if there were any line faults. It was only possible to test one line at a time, so we worked through the lines one by one during quiet periods of the day. The test signal was carefully designed not to trigger the bell, but it was never far off and on some lines you would get a brief tinkle from a mechnical bell or a 'chirp' from an electronic one. My guess is there is a fault on your line or your handset. Couldn't say whether this is caused by the FBI line tap, visiting aliens or something more mundane though.
>> Edited by GreenV8S on Saturday 10th July 11:52
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