Ordering new 3 series

[pauldavies85]

So after some research and testing, I've decided to buy the new 320d efficient dynamic with various options totalling £35k on the road price.

What sort of discount should I expect to achieve, my local garage think they can offer me 5%, is this not a little low but I can appreciate early days the prices will be slightly higher.

Not sure the online brokers will be offering this car yet

Paul

[Original Poster]

The problem is its the new model, this will really go against you when negotiating a discont.

I'd push for 6-7% and get tyre insurance and the smart repair chucked in.

[Fox-]

The ED is really aimed at company car drivers, hence the focus on low BIK.

You'd be better off with a Luxury or a Modern instead if you are buying it yourself, the tiny fuel consumption difference pales into insignificance against the £35k price you are intending to pay.

What about a 328i? 0-60 in 5.9 but 45mpg, leaving the diesel for the reps?

[taffyracer]

pauldavies85 said:

So after some research and testing, I've decided to buy the new 320d efficient dynamic with various options totalling £35k on the road price.

What sort of discount should I expect to achieve, my local garage think they can offer me 5%, is this not a little low but I can appreciate early days the prices will be slightly higher.

Not sure the online brokers will be offering this car yet

Paul

35k for a 4cyl diesel 3 series, you're mad, I bought an E90 version for a colleague 3 weeks ago, 3k on the clock,4 months old, 19.5k,anymore for a 3series boggo diesel is just plain madness

[pauldavies85]

Not when you get 100% write off one your tax in one year, im self employed paying higher rates!

But agreed, I would be mad to buy it otherwise, in fact buying new full stop is mad IMO!

So back to original question

[Jacko 325]

Would you not be better contract hiring? Rates are so cheap on this car and you can still offset the rentals 100% against tax...

Dealer margin is 7% so anything more than 6% and they'll be losing money after fuel, PDI etc.

On a contact hire deal discount is 10.5%

To answer the question I've sold a couple of these outright and 6% is the limit really. Although there will always be someone willing to lose money on selling a brand new car!

[pauldavies85]

I potentially would be but I have money in my current car, it's a long story but I need to buy rather than lease

[Bubba Zanetti]

It won't be easy getting a huge discount on a new model.

As others have said you can pick up the last of the line E90's for a big saving.

I know you can write off the purchase amount against your tax but you will loose a large chunk of that in depreciation anyway.

[Jarrod]

I went to see the new car at my dealer's yesterday (yes I know it is not launched until next weekend) and I was told that they will be havng lots of demo cars which will come on to the market in 3-6 months time and deals may be available. Saying that they are doing some amazing deals on the last of the E90 stock. So personally I would wait 3 months and then look to order either a new one or get one of the demo cars if a decent discount is available.

BTW The car from the sides and back doesnt look very different at all. Most of the changes are around the front, the inside and the engines.

[prg1]

100% write off one your tax in one year, im self employed paying higher rates!



Where can I get information about this. Could be very tempting for myself.

[onesickpuppy]

pauldavies85 said:

So after some research and testing, I've decided to buy the new 320d efficient dynamic with various options totalling £35k on the road price.

What sort of discount should I expect to achieve, my local garage think they can offer me 5%, is this not a little low but I can appreciate early days the prices will be slightly higher.

Not sure the online brokers will be offering this car yet

Paul

If you shop around you'll get 10% (of the ex VAT price), which is the "up front" dealer margin in the car - they'll hope to make money on the back end bonuses. FYI, you could expect 5% on a coupe and 3% on an M car.

[anonymous-user]

taffyracer said:

pauldavies85 said:

So after some research and testing, I've decided to buy the new 320d efficient dynamic with various options totalling £35k on the road price.

What sort of discount should I expect to achieve, my local garage think they can offer me 5%, is this not a little low but I can appreciate early days the prices will be slightly higher.

Not sure the online brokers will be offering this car yet

Paul

35k for a 4cyl diesel 3 series, you're mad, I bought an E90 version for a colleague 3 weeks ago, 3k on the clock,4 months old, 19.5k,anymore for a 3series boggo diesel is just plain madness

Every PH new car thread goes the same. Poster asks about new car, someone comes along stating they are mad as they can buy a second hand car for less

[taffyracer]

the point was the price for what is a base model repmobile, not the savings that could be made by buying an alternative

[pauldavies85]

To PRG 1,

If you buy a brand new car with emissions lower than 110g, you can write off up to 100% of the purchase value in one year rather than the standard 20% P.A. Of course it depends on your business proportion of use, for example mine is 85%.

Whilst it is a short term write off, it is quite nice for this year/next year at least!

I did this last year with an audi A3, but to be honest I really don't like it and want to change. However the sale/residual value of the car is then taxable, so the only way I can make this work is by doing the same again for a car I hopefully will keep for several years, hence the 320D ED.

Any residual value is taxable at some point.

So should I simply try another local dealer or the internet?

[Bubba Zanetti]

pauldavies85 said:

So should I simply try another local dealer or the internet?

Ring around as many dealers as you can and scour the internet, to try and find the best deal.

As has been said though, with it being the "new kid on the block" discounts may not be as generous as one would like or expect.

[AOK]

onesickpuppy said:

If you shop around you'll get 10% (of the ex VAT price), which is the "up front" dealer margin in the car - they'll hope to make money on the back end bonuses. FYI, you could expect 5% on a coupe and 3% on an M car.

nonsense. The harder the unit is to sell, the more a deal you'll get. On an M3 we recently gave what equated to 15% off (at a loss but nevertheless getting a kick back from the back end). An E93 soon to be an outgoing model we'd be looking at the front end (7%) at the most and on F30's we are currently not doing more than 2%, relying heavily on the 'new model list price' rule. It's working for us, as it did on the F20 for the first few months.

I'd be impressed to hear which franchise is doing 5% off F30 orders already?

[squeezebm]

Does anybody know when the touring is due to be launched and if it will come with the X drive?

Cheers

[Cheib]

squeezebm said:

Does anybody know when the touring is due to be launched and if it will come with the X drive?

Cheers

Very much doubt it will come with X drive....BMW UK constantly quoted as saying that it doesn't fit image perception of brand etc. They aren't bring the new M550XD into the UK for that reason....and the fact there isn't enough RHD demand globally for an X drive.

[onesickpuppy]

AOK said:

onesickpuppy said:

If you shop around you'll get 10% (of the ex VAT price), which is the "up front" dealer margin in the car - they'll hope to make money on the back end bonuses. FYI, you could expect 5% on a coupe and 3% on an M car.

nonsense. The harder the unit is to sell, the more a deal you'll get. On an M3 we recently gave what equated to 15% off (at a loss but nevertheless getting a kick back from the back end). An E93 soon to be an outgoing model we'd be looking at the front end (7%) at the most and on F30's we are currently not doing more than 2%, relying heavily on the 'new model list price' rule. It's working for us, as it did on the F20 for the first few months.

I'd be impressed to hear which franchise is doing 5% off F30 orders already?

Yes, sorry, my bad - I didn't realise it was the new model. They'll be centrally allocated to keep stock tight I imagine, and full margin for a while. Interesting you did 15% on an M3 though, was it punted as "used"?

[AOK]

Cheib said:

Very much doubt it will come with X drive....BMW UK constantly quoted as saying that it doesn't fit image perception of brand etc. They aren't bring the new M550XD into the UK for that reason....and the fact there isn't enough RHD demand globally for an X drive.

At the training the confirmed the F30 will be available with xDrive in the UK, along with the ActiveHybrid3 adding to the range later on too.

So if they introduce a Saloon xDrive I think a Touring xDrive is almost a definite!