Abu the terrorist wins his bail hearing.
Abu the terrorist wins his bail hearing.
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johnfm

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13,751 posts

281 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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So, not only can the UK not deport this terrorist, but he will be out on bail !

Heh! How daft.

bobbylondonuk

2,206 posts

221 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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johnfm said:
So, not only can the UK not deport this terrorist, but he will be out on bail !

Heh! How daft.
It might be daft...but dont you have a warm fuzzy feeling inside of being morally right? Think about how much we value the ooman rights of one terrorist over the lives of others! We should get an award for this crap!

Digga

48,558 posts

314 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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bobbylondonuk said:
johnfm said:
So, not only can the UK not deport this terrorist, but he will be out on bail !

Heh! How daft.
It might be daft...but dont you have a warm fuzzy feeling inside of being morally right? Think about how much we value the ooman rights of one terrorist over the lives of others! We should get an award for this crap!
Frankly, if in future there is a 'fgurehead' case for the backlash against the ECHR, this will be it. Ridiculous and completely against the interests of the great many.

tom2019

770 posts

226 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Just in time for him to watch the olympics.


Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

225 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Just let him out already!


I'm sure the public will be more than capable of providing the 'justice' this person deserves.

MX7

7,902 posts

205 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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The EHCR needs extraditing.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

248 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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MX7 said:
The EHCR needs extraditing.
It's probably not a specific fault in the legislation, but the impression that's given off when it's used.

What I mean by that, is that the cost and time involved in taking cases to Europe, limits its use as an avenue to those who are well funded (either privately or by the state) and, typically, with time to spare to get a result. These are likely to be highly contentious by their nature and will polarise opinion.

The High Courts and Courts of Appeal will deal with many highly polarising cases every day. Where they say 'no' to something, they are not always the backstop, so if allowed the case rumbles on to the Supreme Court and eventually into Europe, which essentially becomes the backstop for negative publicity when it rules the lower court had acted unlawfully.

You will probably find plenty of decisions in England's higher courts being made, knowing full well their judgement is questionable in law, but allowing them to dodge the political bullet in doing so. They know that it will take guile and money to take a case into Europe to have a decision overturned, and that the ire of the public will fall upon that court rather than themselves if and when it happens.

Gun

13,432 posts

249 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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I would say I was surprised at this but I'd be lying, unbelievable.

Oakey

27,984 posts

247 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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No doubt there'll be a firm of solicitors who will soon be proudly displaying this 'achievement' on their website

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

258 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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And £500.000 compo !!!!!!!

Steffan

10,362 posts

259 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Sadly the UK government has successively enabled terrorists to operate unfettered in the UK. This decision is simply another demonstration that the government has no interest in UK security.

The government protest their determination but take no effective action.

Disgraceful? Yes.

Appalling? Undoubtedly.

Likely to change? Not a chance.

CBR JGWRR

6,586 posts

180 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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And we wonder why we're a laughing stock.

maniac0796

1,292 posts

197 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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So what happens if a terrorist attack happens and the trail leads back to this guy? Do we, as a nation, get to line up and slap the ECHR, or do we just dump the bodys of victims in the court and tell them at least one person didn't get what he deserved?

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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tom2019 said:
Just in time for him to watch bomb the olympics.
His £500 of taxpayers' money should buy him some fertiliser and a Nissan and Mohammad's your uncle.

I'm not in the least surprised, just another example of how the UK is the place to be for terrorists, criminals and assorted foreign scum.

madala

5,063 posts

229 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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johnfm said:
So, not only can the UK not deport this terrorist, but he will be out on bail !

Heh! How daft.
....well perhaps some good citizen will do his duty if they get the chance......

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

248 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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<Devil’s Advocate> The guy has been in prison, on remand for IIRC almost 8 years, plenty of time for the government to sort out a trial / extradition </Devil’s Advocate>

My personal opinion, is that he shouldn’t have been allowed into the UK in the first place and should simply have been bundled onto a return flight / train / ferry back to where his feet last touched solid ground

Bohally

943 posts

178 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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I'm going to hang my neck out here...

In some respects I would rather he was in the UK, and closely monitored, reporting to the police daily/weekly. If he returns back home, how "close" an eye can the UK keep on him?

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Bohally said:
I'm going to hang my neck out here...

In some respects I would rather he was in the UK, and closely monitored, reporting to the police daily/weekly. If he returns back home, how "close" an eye can the UK keep on him?
So should we gather all the world's criminals over here on the grounds we can keep an eye on them better?

DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

298 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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CBR JGWRR said:
And we wonder why we're a laughing stock.
Yep you are right there.




Send it back to Jordan, who gives a fk if they use torture?

Or.

Bullet to the back of its head fk the ooman rights

voyds9

8,490 posts

314 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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tom2019 said:
Just in time for him to watch the olympics go boom
EFA