Drive shaft boot split
Drive shaft boot split
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tuxman

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9,011 posts

267 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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my passenger side drive shaft boot has split ,gearbox end, anybody else had any problems?wonder if covered by factory warranty only done 900miles black grease everywhere!!!

steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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Sure i've seen it mentioned before.
Try a search.
Steve

davefiddes

846 posts

289 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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There was a problem reported with this a while back. The fix was to fit tie wraps to hold the end of the boot in the correct position (Ultima supplied a diagram when I bought my shafts last April).

hornie

368 posts

270 months

Saturday 10th July 2004
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Pity the factory didn't pass that information on to us.... starting to get the feeling we're always the last to know. Has anyone got the diagram?

DUBLE PUMPER

22 posts

266 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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my drive shaft seals go quite regularly, every couple of thou.
I think the problem is the angle that the shafts run @ . cant do anything about that without big changes.I reckon what happens is that the gaiter gets crimped against the Lobro housing when on full droop and this eventually cuts through the rubber. Its even worse when your on the jacks with the springs and dampers off. I tie up my drive shafts when ime in this situation with some webbing straps to the front to back chassis tube. This prevents them being under pressure so if you have to rotate them it doesnt try to cut abig chunk off. Ask ted for a replacement ime sure he'll oblige

marky p

94 posts

280 months

Monday 26th July 2004
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DUBLE PUMPER said:
my drive shaft seals go quite regularly, every couple of thou.
I think the problem is the angle that the shafts run @ . cant do anything about that without big changes.I reckon what happens is that the gaiter gets crimped against the Lobro housing when on full droop and this eventually cuts through the rubber. Its even worse when your on the jacks with the springs and dampers off. I tie up my drive shafts when ime in this situation with some webbing straps to the front to back chassis tube. This prevents them being under pressure so if you have to rotate them it doesnt try to cut abig chunk off. Ask ted for a replacement ime sure he'll oblige


I agree, way to much angle on those drive shafts at static ride height, if you can drop the engine and box it will give better centre of gravity and longer shaft life plus you will get less power loss through the shafts if they are more inline.

I am chopping my bell housing to bits and reworking it so I can drop the thing as low as possible but doing all this involves changing the slave to a push type unit and running a smaller flywheel/clutch ass'y and then the bottom section can be chopped off and fitted with a flat plate. This puts the crank centre line down low and gives very little angle on the drive shafts but it is allot of work.

Alan 2

162 posts

293 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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marky p said:


I am chopping my bell housing to bits and reworking it so I can drop the thing as low as possible but doing all this involves changing the slave to a push type unit and running a smaller flywheel/clutch ass'y and then the bottom section can be chopped off and fitted with a flat plate. This puts the crank centre line down low and gives very little angle on the drive shafts but it is allot of work.


You may also need to fit a custom exhaust system as dropping the engine may mean that the standard system won't clear the chassis cross members.

Stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Alan 2 said:

marky p said:


I am chopping my bell housing to bits and reworking it so I can drop the thing as low as possible but doing all this involves changing the slave to a push type unit and running a smaller flywheel/clutch ass'y and then the bottom section can be chopped off and fitted with a flat plate. This puts the crank centre line down low and gives very little angle on the drive shafts but it is allot of work.



You may also need to fit a custom exhaust system as dropping the engine may mean that the standard system won't clear the chassis cross members.


What oil pan (sump) are you using? The 'usual' one only just clears the lower chassis memeber as it is!

marky p

94 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Stig said:

Alan 2 said:


marky p said:


I am chopping my bell housing to bits and reworking it so I can drop the thing as low as possible but doing all this involves changing the slave to a push type unit and running a smaller flywheel/clutch ass'y and then the bottom section can be chopped off and fitted with a flat plate. This puts the crank centre line down low and gives very little angle on the drive shafts but it is allot of work.




You may also need to fit a custom exhaust system as dropping the engine may mean that the standard system won't clear the chassis cross members.



What oil pan (sump) are you using? The 'usual' one only just clears the lower chassis memeber as it is!


Running a TVR AJP8 engine with dry sump so it will go down very low but wouldnt a dry sump chevy do the same?

It's turbo charged so I need to fabricate the manifolds and exhaust system plus I have to squeeze a set of cats in there also!

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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cats and turbos under the ultima canopy....... now that will be a challege heat wise.

I'll be interested in the tricks you use to keep temps down, have you done a web site?

mkoch1

486 posts

288 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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good thing your building a gtr, no way you fit all that under the canam lid.

mark

marky p

94 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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andygtt said:
cats and turbos under the ultima canopy....... now that will be a challege heat wise.

I'll be interested in the tricks you use to keep temps down, have you done a web site?


Dont have website yet but I will sort something out so I can put all of my pics on it.

Rear bodywork has been modified and so have the side pods to give much more flow into the back.

bigmack

553 posts

289 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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andygtt said:
cats and turbos under the ultima canopy....... now that will be a challege heat wise.

I'll be interested in the tricks you use to keep temps down, have you done a web site?


You mean you haven't seen MarkyP's photos yet? Crazy, wild, stuff going on in the back! Now this is a guy who knows his stuff! Say Mark, let's throw 800hp into that bad boy, and go play at Le Mans! I'll do the fuel map tuning for you Cheers!
-Mack

just dave

689 posts

270 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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bigmack said:

andygtt said:
cats and turbos under the ultima canopy....... now that will be a challege heat wise.

I'll be interested in the tricks you use to keep temps down, have you done a web site?



You mean you haven't seen MarkyP's photos yet? Crazy, wild, stuff going on in the back! Now this is a guy who knows his stuff! Say Mark, let's throw 800hp into that bad boy, and go play at Le Mans! I'll do the fuel map tuning for you Cheers!
-Mack


Mack,
You forgot to include the addy:

www.ultimaclub.us

....then go look at the "Gallery"...... THAT is gonna be a very custom GTR!!!

Dave

bigmack

553 posts

289 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Thanks for reminding me Dave. A real good example of how to do things right. Mark has to tell us how he installed those front wheel arches with so little filler. After having done a lot of bodywork on my Sports, I can really appreciate the quality of his work. I can't wait to see the final product. I'm trying to encourage him to use a metallic colour of some kind to show off the curves.
Cheers!
-Mack

doc_fudge

243 posts

281 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Mark,
Had a look at the Gallery and I must say....it looks great!!
What are you planning for the fuel tanks though?
Top notch stuff!!

marky p

94 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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doc_fudge said:
Mark,
Had a look at the Gallery and I must say....it looks great!!
What are you planning for the fuel tanks though?
Top notch stuff!!


Thanks for the nice comments guys,

Doc
Fuel bag sits across the centre of the car right up behind the seats so it is part way into the cockpit area, chassis is longer by 80mm to fit it in and the wheelbase is longer by 40mm. This shifted the engine weight forward and now the tank is in front of the engine also helping with front/rear weight distribution, also shifted the front wheel positions back a little to help with the front/rear weight.

It also has inboard shocks with push rods/rockers and other mods, I need to get a website sorted so you guys can see under the body etc, didnt realise there would be so much interest in it.

Cheers,
Mark.

Graham-p

1,548 posts

275 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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AhHa, no wonder Marks ahead of his time with this design, look at his pictures, they're dated 2025!!!
So is this the future ??


Graham

just dave

689 posts

270 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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Graham-p said:
AhHa, no wonder Marks ahead of his time with this design, look at his pictures, they're dated 2025!!!
So is this the future ??


Graham


Donno, but it seems to give the Ultima a facelift IMHO, without the fussy MR2-ish Noble look. Nice, big and brutal.

Well done, Mark!

davefiddes

846 posts

289 months

Wednesday 28th July 2004
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marky p said:
It also has inboard shocks with push rods/rockers and other mods, I need to get a website sorted so you guys can see under the body etc, didnt realise there would be so much interest in it.


Are you kidding! Your car sounds like one of the most interesting Ultimas out there...much more so than the GT race car (which just seems to be wider with anti-roll bars front and back).

A website with more pictures would be fascinating to look at when you get there.