Errr.... how do I make a 24mb jpg?
Errr.... how do I make a 24mb jpg?
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Fezant Pluckah

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1,711 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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As the ntopic asks?

I've joined Alamy to see if I can flog some pictures but they want jpgs, a MINIMUM size of 24mb....

Call me thick, but even converting from RAW I don't get half that size!

Not sure how I am meant to make uncompressed jpgs in Photoshop.

Any advice please pees!

Ta!

Nick Grant

5,492 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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This makes no sense to me, I've heard of it before. How can the quality of a file be judged on file size alone. If you had a shot of the moon for example and there was a lot of black sky it would greatly reduce the file size.

Do they offer any other measurements or just file size alone?

Bob_Defly

5,844 posts

260 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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You upscale.

Nick Grant

5,492 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Bob_Defly said:
You upscale.
Reduce the quality and take up server space for no reason?

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Deluded

4,968 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Check the terms. A lot of places won't accept upscaled images as they arent actually better quality.

A 12mp image upscaled to 24mp resolution isn't a 24mp image. It's just a 12mp image where youve got photoshop to guess the missing pixels to make it the same resolution as a 24mp image. The exact same image taken on a true 24mp camera will be infinitly sharper and more detailed than the upscaled image.

Only way to make a true 24mp photo Is to buy a pro camera that takes them.

Seems a littles excessive though. Last time I dabbled with stock images, they wanted no smaller that 10mp.

Edited by Deluded on Wednesday 8th February 16:02

Fezant Pluckah

Original Poster:

1,711 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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I looked at that Munter and yes it works, but what a faff. I'm not going to save each of the images I wanted to upload as a tiff and then reszie them and booger around with all that tat.

What a waste of time.

Errr.... anyone know of anywhere else that I can (try and) flog piccies (Ha!) that doesn't require a 73gigbyte jpg?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


nickfrog

25,308 posts

246 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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The idea of 24mp is to have a file big enough for very large commercial size print. (and it helps weeding out amateurs).

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Seems odd to want to buy in a lossless format, surely? I could make a massive but appalling quality jpeg.

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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It's possible to upscale in 10% steps without reducing IQ but you've got to have a high quality source image in the first place


Nick Grant

5,492 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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But why though is the question? They could do the upscale themselves at the point of sale, a much more sensible level of quality requirements could be produced. Plus I bet 90% of thier image sales are for online use these days anyway.

muppetdave

2,118 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Obviously depending on your camera, you should with most modern cameras be there already.

Take a photo using your camera on the highest quality setting. Open it in PS and at the bottom left you'll see two figures - the higher of the two is the one that you want to hit your threshold for Alamy. The actual] filesize you see on your hard drive won't be 24MP, but the uncompressed size is, and will therefore pass (assuming the camera offers sufficient quality settings) for Alamy. If you don't quite hit the right size, you may need to resize slightly - but don't overdo it, as you will run the risk of it failing their quality standards.

I can't explain what it all means, but I managed to sort someone else's Alamy entry on this basis, for information the use a lower-end Nikon DSLR (don't know which model as I use Canon).

TheEnd

15,370 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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You could fake it and pad out the file.

Fezant Pluckah

Original Poster:

1,711 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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muppetdave said:
Obviously depending on your camera, you should with most modern cameras be there already.

Take a photo using your camera on the highest quality setting. Open it in PS and at the bottom left you'll see two figures - the higher of the two is the one that you want to hit your threshold for Alamy. The actual] filesize you see on your hard drive won't be 24MP, but the uncompressed size is, and will therefore pass (assuming the camera offers sufficient quality settings) for Alamy. If you don't quite hit the right size, you may need to resize slightly - but don't overdo it, as you will run the risk of it failing their quality standards.

I can't explain what it all means, but I managed to sort someone else's Alamy entry on this basis, for information the use a lower-end Nikon DSLR (don't know which model as I use Canon).
I think you've cracked it Dave!

I see my files are all 34.5mb or so in size uncompressed.

So it looks like I don't have top fart about with them!

Whew!

And thanks! smile

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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itsnotarace said:
It's possible to upscale in 10% steps without reducing IQ but you've got to have a high quality source image in the first place
lol good job I'm not an Alamy contributor eh

If necessary, interpolate (upsize) the file to 24MB using a specialist, professional software package. If you have a camera that is capable of producing an uncompressed 8 bit file size of over 24MB then leave it that size. We recommend Abobe Photoshop although other software is acceptable. If using Photoshop version 7 or higher select the bicubic option. We advise that you do not use “step” or incremental interpolation. Check your software’s default settings to ensure that all sharpening is turned off.

http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/digital-came...


LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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A D800 would seem to give the required result quite readily.

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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LongQ said:
A D800 would seem to give the required result quite readily.
Have to trim 'em down a bit, considering the starting point is about 76.5Mb sized RAW files!!!

Clio200pat

157 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Fezant Pluckah said:
I think you've cracked it Dave!

I see my files are all 34.5mb or so in size uncompressed.

So it looks like I don't have top fart about with them!

Whew!

And thanks! smile
I actually work for Alamy so this interested me. It looks like you've answered your own question already, but I thought I'd post a useful link to a thread on the Alamy forum.

http://www.alamy.com/forums/Default.aspx?g=posts&a...

K12beano

20,854 posts

304 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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There's usually some sort of reason behind most things....
Clio200pat said:
Useful stuff
Thanks for taking the trouble thumbup

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Getty talk about file size as uncompressed file in memory, which is down to pixel dimensions and depth (jpg=8bit)

A 4-5meg job will expand to a very large size in memory and its this 'file size' they base their processing and pricing on.

Edit see this for example:
http://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/photo/christch...

51.3 MB
5184 x 3456 px (17.28 x 11.52 in.) - 300 dpi - RGB
File size on download 6.97 MB