Are red light offences subject to the 14 day NIP rule?
Are red light offences subject to the 14 day NIP rule?
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g3org3y

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22,111 posts

214 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Lack of concentration after a fatiguing day contributed to poor judgement and me going through a (just) red light this evening.

Travelling on the A12 out of London on a section where many of the junctions appear to have grey Gatsos for red light offences.

To be honest I'm not sure that the junction itself had a camera, I'm just fearing the worst. On going through I did not notice a flash (I'm assuming as they are Gatso type cameras, they flash).

Does the 14 day rule apply to red light offences as per speeding offences?

I'm assuming if caught, it'll be a case of 3 points and £60 fine?

TIA.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

225 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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If the offence you commit requires you to be served an NIP then yes ...failing to conform to a traffic sign (in this case a FTL) is one such offence requiring an NIP...)

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

206 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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I think kerb crawling is a summons-able offence.

oldsoak

5,618 posts

225 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Liquid Knight said:
I think kerb crawling is a summons-able offence.
Where the fork in hell did that come from?

daz3210

5,000 posts

263 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Dunno about London, but certainly Manchester have 'Traffic Signal Awareness' fundraising schemes in operation......

Perhaps there is hope.

Marlin45

1,334 posts

187 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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oldsoak said:
Where the fork in hell did that come from?
A 'red light' misdemeanor? Mebe? tongue out

covboy

2,593 posts

197 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Slightly O/T and may have been asked on here before, but do the red light cameras also work if you “jump” the amber after green?

Reason I ask, a while back had someone next to me (in lane 2) make a “smart” getaway at a set of camera covered lights. I thought (but couldn’t be sure) that I saw a flash. Was relieved that I had waited till the green, but then wondered what if two cars at the same time went early – Would both be done on the same photographic evidence?

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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They flash.

Streaky

g3org3y

Original Poster:

22,111 posts

214 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Thanks for the info.

I've seen the flashes from Gatsos before and they're pretty bright even in daylight. I am fairly optimistic that I didn't see a flash.

Only time will tell. Let the 14 day countdown begin.

g3org3y

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22,111 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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14 days down the line, still not heard anything.

My understanding was they have to put it in the post by day 14 but it can arrive later?

*continues crossing of fingers*

0000

13,816 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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g3org3y said:
My understanding was they have to put it in the post by day 14 but it can arrive later?
Not my understanding. I believe they have 14 days not including the date of offence to get it to your door, with possible exceptions for major events causing delays in the post (snow)?

chriscpritchard

284 posts

188 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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0000 said:
Not my understanding. I believe they have 14 days not including the date of offence to get it to your door, with possible exceptions for major events causing delays in the post (snow)?
Basically, they need to have put it in the post such that "in the normal course of the post" it would arrive at your door - this means 1st class by day 13 in essence

g3org3y

Original Poster:

22,111 posts

214 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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chriscpritchard said:
0000 said:
Not my understanding. I believe they have 14 days not including the date of offence to get it to your door, with possible exceptions for major events causing delays in the post (snow)?
Basically, they need to have put it in the post such that "in the normal course of the post" it would arrive at your door - this means 1st class by day 13 in essence
Good news then! smile Many thanks. thumbup

g3org3y

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22,111 posts

214 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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It has been way over the 14 days now and nothing heard.

*breathes sigh of relief* smile

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

206 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Apparently you can check to see if your car has been flashed by a camera here...

www.i-database.co.uk

jesta1865

3,453 posts

232 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Liquid Knight said:
Apparently you can check to see if your car has been flashed by a camera here...

www.i-database.co.uk
yeah funny, i crapped myself as i thought i had been caught in the wifes car. knob-head smile

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

174 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Liquid Knight said:
Apparently you can check to see if your car has been flashed by a camera here...

www.i-database.co.uk
Bar Steward. Genuine heart in mouth moment there. smile

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

206 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I got that as an email from direct-gov instead of direct.gov sneaky buggers. hehe

Feel free to share. wink

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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If the vehicle you were driving is shown as yourself as Reg Keeper then sweat over as they had to send NOIP to you by last post 27th Feb.

If not check with Reg Keeper to see if has received any paperwork and named you as driver.

dvd

ryantcb

2 posts

117 months

Friday 12th February 2021
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Was flashed on same road A12 as op. Though 9 years later. Definitely flashed evidence on my own dash cam. 3 weeks later and still no NIP or anything. I’m going to assume the 14 day rule applies and has expired. Maybe the A12 cameras aren’t actually used purely a deterrent. I count my blessings on this occasion. I’m trying the stopping approach to traffic lights ever since though.