SME lending - Project Merlin a failure shocka.
SME lending - Project Merlin a failure shocka.
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Digga

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anonymous-user

85 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Wow, all of less than 1% to small firms. When I heard the Today programme I thought from the headline that the target had been missed by miles.

Du1point8

22,960 posts

223 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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So lets get this right...

Government step in and kind of demand that Banks lend money to businesses as they have set them a quota.

Banks don't lend enough and are publicly blamed in media...

Hmmmm..... Where have I seen this idea go badly wrong before?

Why don't the government either keep this st between them and the banks or not do it... And certainly don't let the media involved.

Digga

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48,562 posts

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Monday 13th February 2012
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Was never going to work, was it?

Eric Mc

125,860 posts

296 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Much as the banks deserve a kicking - I don't think they do on this score. First of all the "failure" is only by 1% - so hardly a disaster.

Secondly, the banks have been given two mutually impossible tasks, to improve the strength of their balance sheets by lending less but to help the economy by lending more.

essayer

10,410 posts

225 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Sky News said:
The five banks that signed up to the Project Merlin deal with the Government lent £74.9bn to small and medium sized firms in 2011 - £1.1bn short of their £76bn target.
Hardly a disaster, IMO.

Digga

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Monday 13th February 2012
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essayer said:
Sky News said:
The five banks that signed up to the Project Merlin deal with the Government lent £74.9bn to small and medium sized firms in 2011 - £1.1bn short of their £76bn target.
Hardly a disaster, IMO.
Just an idiotic idea in the first place, given the associated costs of 'the project' in the first place. Another waste of public money.

Sticks.

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282 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Is the figure quoted lent or offered?


Digga

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Monday 13th February 2012
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Sticks. said:
Is the figure quoted lent or offered?
Loaned. Difficult to quantify what was asked for but not granted, given the banks one-to-many relationships with SME's, but this from the article:

Andrew Cave from the Federation of Small Businesses said:
"The Merlin targets have failed,"

"Talking to our members, 30% of them say they missed a growth opportunity because they weren't able to access finance at the right times, so there is still a problem."

Eric Mc

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296 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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The FSB would never have said otherwise.

Steffan

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259 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Much as the banks deserve a kicking - I don't think they do on this score. First of all the "failure" is only by 1% - so hardly a disaster.

Secondly, the banks have been given two mutually impossible tasks, to improve the strength of their balance sheets by lending less but to help the economy by lending more.
I think Eric Mc is spot on here.

Politicians need to begin joined up thinking. The NHS nonsense is another example of the complete naivety of our politicians. They simply do not think through the unintended consequences of their policies at all.

They gave the Banks mutually exclusive objectives. Hence the result.

Banks have already demonstrated in the most graphic terms their complete inability to deal with difficulties in Finance. If the Banks were the smooth, organised, resourceful, thoughtful, reactive leaders that they pretend to be they might just have seen the crunch coming in 2008.

Not a single Bank did.
Nor did the Regulators.
Nor did the Bank of England.
Nor did the Treasury.

Banks are fixated upon gambling on trades in the investment, derivative and commodities markets for the bonuses and personal fortunes of the Senior Staff and Directors of the Banks, who have come to believe that this is their entitlement.

The Corporate Governance of Banks has not changed in any material concern.

The game of Musical Chairs may have moved around Directorships but the Ethos of massive personal reward and the culture of personal greed remains endemic in the Banking system.

There will be no improvement until the system is changed. The Government has no intention of changing the system. Therefore, there will be no improvement.


Randy Winkman

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220 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Du1point8 said:
Why don't the government either keep this st between them and the banks or not do it... And certainly don't let the media involved.
Because the main role of any Government is to announce stuff. If they aren't announcing things they aren't happy.

Eric Mc

125,860 posts

296 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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If they aren't anouncing things people will think they are doing nothing.

Randy Winkman

22,750 posts

220 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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The irony is that most of the public would prefer Governments to do nothing.

The problem even spreads to the Civil Service. In the Civil Service, you could be doing the best job ever. But if it doesn't result in an announcement about some new policy, it's considered trivial and you get no credit.

glazbagun

15,380 posts

228 months

Monday 13th February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
If they aren't anouncing things people will think they are doing nothing.
Was this a Clinton/Blair creation, or was it common before as well?