Friend see's Dog die on frozen lake - Yesterday

[Melman Giraffe]

A friend of mine just told me that they witnessed a dog die after falling under the ice on a frozen lake yesterday (Dorney - this is where the Olympic rowing will take place). The Dog ran out onto the ice and got to the middle where it was thin then went under and couldn't get out. Very sad indeed for the owner who was very distressed. Keep an eye out for our fury friends whilst out walking please!!


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[davepoth]

Melman Giraffe said:

A friend of mine just told me that they witnessed a dog die after falling under the ice on a frozen lake yesterday (Dorney - this is where the Olympic rowing will take place). The Dog ran out onto the ice and got to the middle where it was thin then went under and couldn't get out. Very sad indeed for the owner who was very distressed. Keep an eye out for our fury friends whilst out walking please!!


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Better to keep a lead on our furry friends perhaps?

[budgie smuggler]

That's a real bugger. At least they had the sense not to go out onto the ice like this throbber:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-1700556...

[blueg33]

budgie smuggler said:

That's a real bugger. At least they had the sense not to go out onto the ice like this throbber:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-1700556...

Arguably he did the right thing. The outcome was certainly better for the dog and the owner.

Bravery is almost always stupid but at times people say someone was brave, the other times that they were an idiot.

[Jasandjules]

blueg33 said:

Bravery is almost always stupid but at times people say someone was brave, the other times that they were an idiot.

I find the line between bravery and stupidity is dependant upon the outcome.

I couldn't say that, despite knowing that I would be f***ng stupid to do so, I wouldn't be heading out to rescue a dog. However, I won't let my dogs off lead near frozen lakes/rivers etc..

[bexVN]

I'd say if you're going to go out on ice he did the right thing. No clothes to weigh him down, on the ice and if he did fall in, easier to move and dry warm clothes to put back on afterwards, made complete sense to me.

What I really really cannot understand is why people keep walking their dogs off leads around frozen lakes, the dogs don't see the water just more land. Surely these people read the papers and it also proves that the fire brigade is wrong, they say most dogs get out alive but recent reports are showong they don't.

Such an awful thing to witness for everyone but especially those poor poor owners

[Mubby]

oh how awful to witness that

[Caractacus]

A sad story, without a doubt

As for the chap in his underwear? I'd have to say I'd have done the same. Plus, he probably knows the area and the depth of the water, so if he went thru, he may know it's not too deep to get out?

Cheers,

C.

[Melman Giraffe]

More info here....

http://www.burnham-advertiser.co.uk/News/Areas/Dor...

[Marf]

Caractacus said:

As for the chap in his underwear? I'd have to say I'd have done the same.

Ditto

[balders118]

My friend told me last week that his dog went carrering off after some ducks on a semi frozen lake, he saw the water coming and tried to stop but just skidded and went arse over tit into the water. Luckily he managed to get straight back out, but my mate won't be letting him off the lead near a frozen lake again!

[Adz The Rat]

Marf said:

Ditto

I think I would too tbh.

[Mastiff]

Adz The Rat said:

Marf said:

Ditto

I think I would too tbh.

And me.

If it's thin enough for the dog to go through, then I can thrash my way out.

Assuming that there is someone there to help of course, otherwise I'd just freeze. If not - I'd probably still go in anyway....

[budgie smuggler]

I can't believe what I'm reading. You'd get onto an icy lake/river to retrieve a dog?

I can only assume none of you suggesting that have ever been in water in sub-zero conditions. I used to do a fair bit of winter series kayaking so I'm fairly used to the effects of cold shock, but even so, there is no fooking chance I'd be getting in there.

edit:
have a read of this http://www.seakayakermag.com/2008/Feb08/cold-shock...

[blueg33]

I surf on the winter, and I know what you mean, but I would consider giving it a go (possibly)

(not a dog lover either)

Edited by blueg33 on Tuesday 14th February 14:35

[Mastiff]

budgie smuggler said:

I can't believe what I'm reading. You'd get onto an icy lake/river to retrieve a dog?

You just don't get dog lovers do you.

It may as well be a child!

[Marf]

I'm not even a dog lover and I'd give it a go.

[CraigVmax]

I live on the river and last year in the depths of winter I had to go in up to waist height to save a boat.

All i can say to any of you who think you'd be able to swim in a frozen lake if you got into trouible is dont find out the hard way.

I'm a fairly strong swimmer but there is absoltely no way I'd go near the water in that temp again. I always thought I'd be able to thrash about and keep warm. The reality was (timings a bit approximate but you get the idea)

- 5 seconds in, breath taken away
- 10 seconds in, legs hurt, very uncomfortable
- 30 seconds in, my head hurt and my legs felt like someone was stabbing me in them over and over again
- 1 minute in, virtually unbearable

If i'd actually been fully in the water I'm pretty sure I would have drowned. Several people did near me around the same time.

We love our bets and its personal choice, but imho, they arent worth dying for

[blueg33]

These people are not dead (at least not from swimming in freezing water)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2010/jan/08/swi...

[CraigVmax]

they have special powers.