For gods sake why can't you fix this!
For gods sake why can't you fix this!
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mini me

Original Poster:

1,451 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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It's more annoying than piles!

SC7

1,882 posts

210 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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I asked about this numerous times and got little or no response.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

It is absolutely infuriating.

mini me

Original Poster:

1,451 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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I have seen several posts in the past referring to it. As you say, never seen a response from the powers that be. Mainly the answer is to use the full website. In which case why bother with a mobile one at all and why insist on sending me to it?

Pretty poor form really in my opinion but maybe I'm just having a bad day.

Gene Simmons

3,001 posts

239 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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It's total w@nk.

Either incredibly slow loading, doesn't load at all, doesn't link to adverts, doesn't link to video clips attached to articles on the front page, doesn't allow you to view articles from the front page and if it does manage to let you do that, then return to the earlier point about video clips........

What on earth is going on? Clearly there are ongoing issues that haven't been resolved properly. It would be understandable if the points raised were new ones, but they aren't......

Is it possible to actually get an answer? Or is it the same old guff about it being worked on.....

I'm obviously a fan of the site, and been here a while. Think some of the things on here are great (aerofoil and emsmans toylander to name a couple) but the site is getting increasingly frustrating and buggy.....

Answers on a postcard please. You could of course post them on here, and I would be greatful if you did, but it is unlikely that the correct page will open........

Sort it out smile

Zyp

16,070 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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I've just come on here to post exactly the same thing.

This is becoming beyond a joke - it's either 'connection timeout' or '4002 milliseconds blah blah blah..'

Undeniably pathetic!

jimslops

6,419 posts

183 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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I like this feature

srob

12,520 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Often makes me give up on the site when I just want a quick snout when I'm out and about.

Really frustrating!

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Our maintenance scheduled for tonight should help. We do realise the timeout needs to be longer, though, and are looking into it.

-Matt

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Maybe Haymarket need to provide the techies with the kit they need to make the site work? And that includes resources and doing away with the jokers that provide the mobile service (I understand this is run by a third party?). Surely if the web service is timing out then somebody needs to be performance tuning the backend!

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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It is true it's run by a 3rd party, which is why we can't just go change the timeout value. But it's timing out because the main site is running slow and that's because we're down a database server. I'm putting that server back in the loop in an hour, which should speed up the main site and as a result make the mobile site stop timing out.

So that's where we stand. smile

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Sorry for labouring the point on something that I'm sure you're working very hard on, but doesn't the error occur when all the DB servers are running?

G600

1,479 posts

216 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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MattDell said:
It is true it's run by a 3rd party, which is why we can't just go change the timeout value. But it's timing out because the main site is running slow and that's because we're down a database server. I'm putting that server back in the loop in an hour, which should speed up the main site and as a result make the mobile site stop timing out.

So that's where we stand. smile
But it happens just about everyday, it's not like it's just when a server dies (unless that happens all the time)

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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MagicalTrevor said:
Sorry for labouring the point on something that I'm sure you're working very hard on, but doesn't the error occur when all the DB servers are running?
Depends on the response times and how busy we are. It's currently happening a lot because we're down a server.

That's not to say it doesn't still happen, which is why we need to look at the timeout value.

MagicalTrevor

6,481 posts

258 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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MattDell said:
MagicalTrevor said:
Sorry for labouring the point on something that I'm sure you're working very hard on, but doesn't the error occur when all the DB servers are running?
Depends on the response times and how busy we are. It's currently happening a lot because we're down a server.

That's not to say it doesn't still happen, which is why we need to look at the timeout value.
Forgive me, I don't know your environment, but why can't you just performance tune the database server? By which I don't purely mean indexes.

Moley RUFC

3,671 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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The very least PH should do is produce a new t shirt for the shop with the dreaded "Operation timed out after 4006 milliseconds" on and silhouette of man with head in hands.

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Our database servers are very much performance tuned. Our problem lies when we lose one of those servers and have to double up. There's been a few things happen out of our control recently and we've had to do the best we can to keep the site running. Really can't go into it much more than that without telling you our platform architecture.

sjp63

1,997 posts

301 months

Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Cant manage my ad - "sorry you cant change this at the moment" and the phone number to call classified dept is "sorry that number isnt recognised"

Utterly amateur

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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mini me said:
It's more annoying than piles!
I assumed it was just me!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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I think peoples main annoyance is that it really doesn't seem to be that performance related

I gave up with the mobile site over a year ago and use the main one on my phone due to the issues, I had them when FFPH 'appeared' to be fine

I don't really understand the need for the timeout? I dont mind when PH is running a bit slow as I can click a link and know that eventually the thread will open as I am on the main site

Clicking a link, then getting the timeout, then clicking a link, then getting the timeout ad infinitum is the infuriating part

I know in the past it has been mentioned that you have to deal with the lowest common denomninator regarding phones and so if someone is using an old Nokia or something

But I am not sure many of these phones exist anymore, I can't remember the last time I saw someone using a phone that wasnt a smartphone of some sort

Carfolio

1,124 posts

210 months

Wednesday 15th February 2012
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MattDell said:
Our database servers are very much performance tuned. Our problem lies when we lose one of those servers and have to double up. There's been a few things happen out of our control recently and we've had to do the best we can to keep the site running. Really can't go into it much more than that without telling you our platform architecture.
MSSQL servers? *Snort* ;-)