Camera Van location
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docevi1

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10,430 posts

271 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Hi,
a talivan has been spotted at the end of my street, where there are no accidents, no deaths but admitably a fair few people speed in the area.

What are the guidelines for the location of the camera van (there are no fixed speed camera's in my area, or indeed on this road - the nearest is 4 miles away).

As I was talking these pictures everyone braked regardless of the speed they were doing, various people nearly missed the junction/crashed and I heard several screeches of the tyres. The distance involved here is about 50ft from the first blocked image... this is a revenue gaining scamera van!






They've made an enemy of me from the debarkle with the red-light camera and the lack of compassion or indeed acknowledgement from said event. I'm contemplating writing to them asking as to why they have positioned the van here.

>>> Edited by docevi1 on Monday 12th July 17:50

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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ACPO guideline breach- NO camera warning signs placed before the van.
Not clearly visible from "X" distance either.

docevi1

Original Poster:

10,430 posts

271 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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I've been out and had another look, there is now a sign (facing the wrong way) at the bottom of the bank, the camera van only becomes fully clear when the camera itself is visible (i.e. no warning).

Prior to this we have seen those wires across the road for twice in teh past 3 months or so for a week. I'm guessing they've looked at the speeds and realised they can make money from that piece

Usually I'd be all for it, as as my Dad pointed out some cars travel at high velocity up the bank there, but this is out of order - it's completely hidden until it catches you. Disgraceful and I offer no support what-so-ever!

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Bit of a narrow road to be doing anything more than 30mph...especially with the concealed junctions....

Anything more than 30mph along that particular road and you're asking for trouble...

Street

David A

3,711 posts

274 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Who owns the bit land its parked on? Dare you to come out pretending to be the landowner threatning to clamp it . . .

Or have a word with scammers and tell em to put it somewhere visible (like wales) since they aint going away.

docevi1

Original Poster:

10,430 posts

271 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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street, you are correct, there is a hell-of-a-lot happening in that area to the extent that 30mph is often too fast, I agree with enforcing the law, but this is taking the mick as it's causing more problems than it not been there.

David A said:
Who owns the bit land its parked on? Dare you to come out pretending to be the landowner threatning to clamp it...

It's council owned I'm reckoning

David A said:
Or have a word with scammers and tell em to put it somewhere visible (like wales) since they aint going away.

I don't want to get myself in trouble in that sense, I don't mind writing (where you can re-read, correct yourself...) arguments aren't my thing.

puggit

49,437 posts

271 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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How about the angle the van is parked at? Any guidelines (dare I say even rules) for this?

David A

3,711 posts

274 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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docevi1 said:




David A said:
Or have a word with scammers and tell em to put it somewhere visible (like wales) since they aint going away.



I don't want to get myself in trouble in that sense, I don't mind writing (where you can re-read, correct yourself...) arguments aren't my thing.



I don't think you'd get into trouble explaining what you've explained in post 1 - I'd do the same if it were my road. The emphasis would be you want the same thing - less accidents. I guess if they moved it 2 feet closer to the road it would be just that bit more visible and therefore more effective in promoting safety. This is all provided the scamera operator isn't a tw@

Sorry for any confusion

>> Edited by David A on Monday 12th July 20:06

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

278 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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puggit said:
How about the angle the van is parked at? Any guidelines (dare I say even rules) for this?


I was just thinking that it wouldn't take much encouragement from a decent trolley jack to tip that over

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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I'm more concerned why the camera operator was interested in vehicle going 'Uphill' rather than downhill....

Street

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Nah...they're not all twats....

Some are even on double time payments on their days off...Only a twat would turn that down..

Street

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Quinny said:
Yeah you're probably right, they can't all be twats.

Cos at least a twat is useful


What on earth use is a pregnant fish? Unless you are a breeder or something...?

Street

wilkos

197 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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just get your neighbour with the red truck to park on the road in the vans line of sight, and the guy with the white van to park across the rear of the scamera van. Obviously make sure that they park legaly

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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wilkos said:
just get your neighbour with the red truck to park on the road in the vans line of sight, and the guy with the white van to park across the rear of the scamera van. Obviously make sure that they park legaly


Which they are not doing at the moment...(on the pavement)..

Street

docevi1

Original Poster:

10,430 posts

271 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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I don't actually live on that street, I live off the junction which it's parked at in a quiet cul-de-sac.

They always park there, indeed have been since we've lived here. On our road we have several blokes who parks on blind bends, opposite the entrance to our backlane (nearly had an accident as you can't see and have to edge out)... Parking round here is bad, Speed is an issue yes but it just annoys me it's on my road if you know what I mean.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

262 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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Streetcop said:

wilkos said:
just get your neighbour with the red truck to park on the road in the vans line of sight, and the guy with the white van to park across the rear of the scamera van. Obviously make sure that they park legaly



Which they are not doing at the moment...(on the pavement)..

Street


Ironically, if they block the road, it's legal.... I am sure street will correct me if I'm wrong on this

v8 westy

940 posts

277 months

Monday 12th July 2004
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can camera vans legally park in bus stops?

SpudGunner

472 posts

282 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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They can park where they like, as luckily for them the law doesnt seem to apply.

One regularly parks in the cycle lane near my house. This then forces the cyclists to swerve out in the road to avoid the van.

Streetcop

5,907 posts

261 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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I'm talking about the white and red vehicles on the pavement, not the police van..

Street

ftasb

229 posts

262 months

Tuesday 13th July 2004
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Semtex.