BMW dealer puts price up by £2k on used M3?!!!!
BMW dealer puts price up by £2k on used M3?!!!!
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Lostprophet

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2,549 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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I have had my eye an M3 for a few months, it clearly has not sold, so today the dealer up the price up to £37k?

I am assuming it is a simple marketing tactic... people enquire about the car and the dealer offers a magical huge discount?? The buyer thinks... omg.. thats amazing buy buy buy.

I don't get it to be honest... if anything it will put buyers off as it is now over priced!

What the heck are BMW playing at? Plums.

IMac

78 posts

301 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Seems common practice at the moment... It is possible they may be pricing high to show an inflated discounted "sale" price when they are shifting their p/xs come March. Despite being illegal it does happen.

M3Charlie

556 posts

184 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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How is it illegal?

Wacky Racer

41,035 posts

273 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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M3Charlie said:
How is it illegal?
This.

They could price it at 100k if they wanted to.

M3RMS

1,171 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th February 2012
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Hexagon have just done the same on an e46 M3 they've had up for quite a few months now......

Mind you, still cheaper than their original price - must be the post Christmas price hike!

IMac

78 posts

301 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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M3Charlie said:
How is it illegal?
If they raise the price only to subsequently lower it to show an exagerated "Sale" or "price reduction", that is misrepresntation of price.

They can price at whatever level they want, and change it as they see fit. They fall foul of the law if they chose to highlight or promote any price comparisons.

Edited by IMac on Friday 17th February 19:42

Deva Link

26,934 posts

271 months

Friday 17th February 2012
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Lostprophet said:
I have had my eye an M3 for a few months, it clearly has not sold, so today the dealer up the price up to £37k?
You best buy it quick, before it's out of reach!

ProjectBayern

40 posts

181 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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It's not illegal, there is some government guidelines on it but they're entitled to inflate or reduce the price of their car as they like, however if they are having a sale, the price they are reducing it from needs to have been the price for "a minimum of 30 days".

I used to be a sales manager and business manager so had to go through thus twice a year (Feb and August) every year. We had to put all the prices up at the start of Feb so in mid March after the rush of new plates we could have a "7 day sale with huge discounts" which were actually just the cars being reduced back down to what they were, pretty disgusting practise and one of the many reasons I left. All of the big dealer groups still do it.

I've got an E92 M3 so if you want any tips or advise on what to look for then please feel free to give me a shout.

Good luck.

C

croyde

25,940 posts

256 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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I've had my eye on some non Beemers that have been on the forecourts since this time last year and they all have had a price hike.

Does seem strange if they are not selling but then not everyone keeps an eye on prices as if they are stocks and shares.

IMac

78 posts

301 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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ProjectBayern said:
It's not illegal, there is some government guidelines on it but they're entitled to inflate or reduce the price of their car as they like, however if they are having a sale, the price they are reducing it from needs to have been the price for "a minimum of 30 days".

I used to be a sales manager and business manager so had to go through thus twice a year (Feb and August) every year. We had to put all the prices up at the start of Feb so in mid March after the rush of new plates we could have a "7 day sale with huge discounts" which were actually just the cars being reduced back down to what they were, pretty disgusting practise and one of the many reasons I left. All of the big dealer groups still do it.

C
So by your own comment above it IS illegal, if the parameters you state (incorrectly) are not adhered to. If you ask your legal advisor they will confirm the case law, and will help you avoid any.

Interested to read your comment that "all the big dealer groups still do it"? A sweeping statement if not based on facts.

CatJ

9,586 posts

269 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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Is it because it's approaching end of financial year and they are trying inflate their assets ?

DukeDickson

4,871 posts

239 months

Saturday 18th February 2012
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CatJ said:
Is it because it's approaching end of financial year and they are trying inflate their assets ?
Inflate/protect revenue due to the impending plate change. The sale price won't affect the value as stock.


I guess if you manage to sell pre March then drinks all round. Otherwise, bump up and then drop back in early March and hope no one notices. Only thing is, I guess some people do - a Z4 coupe I was keeping an eye on pending March 1st just happens to have increased by a bag this week.

P101

1,256 posts

184 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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PJ S

10,842 posts

253 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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P101 said:
ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
If you're tired, maybe going to bed is a better idea than perusing threads with nothing to contribute!

mph1977

12,467 posts

194 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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IMac said:
Seems common practice at the moment... It is possible they may be pricing high to show an inflated discounted "sale" price when they are shifting their p/xs come March. Despite being illegal it does happen.
as long as the higher price is charged for a certain period of time they can use that as the 'before' price when discounting ... ( iirc it's 28 days and while this isn't relevant to cars doesn't have to be all places selling the product )

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

229 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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Or maybe with the impending announcement of spring and the wakening of the buying plebs (along with the hibernating mammals and flowers such as daffodils...) that they feel they can get a bit more for it? hence the cheeky price bump?

Lostprophet

Original Poster:

2,549 posts

195 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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ProjectBayern said:
It's not illegal, there is some government guidelines on it but they're entitled to inflate or reduce the price of their car as they like, however if they are having a sale, the price they are reducing it from needs to have been the price for "a minimum of 30 days".

I used to be a sales manager and business manager so had to go through thus twice a year (Feb and August) every year. We had to put all the prices up at the start of Feb so in mid March after the rush of new plates we could have a "7 day sale with huge discounts" which were actually just the cars being reduced back down to what they were, pretty disgusting practise and one of the many reasons I left. All of the big dealer groups still do it.

I've got an E92 M3 so if you want any tips or advise on what to look for then please feel free to give me a shout.

Good luck.

C
Hi,

That's very kind of you.

I am quite annoyed with the pricing, so I will be as cheeky as BMW are being right now and offer them what I think their cars are worth. Clearly their pricing is a lot of bs.

If I can't get what I am after I will prob go for a Audi s5 or a e350 coupe...

Well... I am hoping I get a nice m3... Let's hope the market tanks and BMW sell st all so they will have to reduce their pricing...

jaedba2604

3,783 posts

173 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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IMac said:
ProjectBayern said:
It's not illegal, there is some government guidelines on it but they're entitled to inflate or reduce the price of their car as they like, however if they are having a sale, the price they are reducing it from needs to have been the price for "a minimum of 30 days".

I used to be a sales manager and business manager so had to go through thus twice a year (Feb and August) every year. We had to put all the prices up at the start of Feb so in mid March after the rush of new plates we could have a "7 day sale with huge discounts" which were actually just the cars being reduced back down to what they were, pretty disgusting practise and one of the many reasons I left. All of the big dealer groups still do it.

C
So by your own comment above it IS illegal, if the parameters you state (incorrectly) are not adhered to. If you ask your legal advisor they will confirm the case law, and will help you avoid any.

Interested to read your comment that "all the big dealer groups still do it"? A sweeping statement if not based on facts.
is it illegal? has anyone told dfs?

jaedba2604

3,783 posts

173 months

Sunday 19th February 2012
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CatJ said:
Is it because it's approaching end of financial year and they are trying inflate their assets ?
no, assets are always valued at the lower of cost of net realiseable value, not selling price

croyde

25,940 posts

256 months

Monday 20th February 2012
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OP, have you tried going to the dealer with a cheeky offer? If he is stuck he might bite your hand off. Worth trying.