Being forced to work the 5th June Bank Holiday
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I think more to the point, why do you think you should be entitled to an extra days holiday ... Which I assume you want to be paid for?
I've said to my employees that with the normal notice of booking holidays my guys can either
- take the day off as either part of their annual holiday entitlement
- take the day off unpaid but as an authorised absence
- or they work
Whichever, noone gets a free paid days holiday.
From an employers perspective, I pay the by the hour and accrue holidays for them, but can only charge our customers for actual hours my guys work at the customer site.
It would cost a fortune off the bottom line by "giving" extra paid holidays to people.
I've said to my employees that with the normal notice of booking holidays my guys can either
- take the day off as either part of their annual holiday entitlement
- take the day off unpaid but as an authorised absence
- or they work
Whichever, noone gets a free paid days holiday.
From an employers perspective, I pay the by the hour and accrue holidays for them, but can only charge our customers for actual hours my guys work at the customer site.
It would cost a fortune off the bottom line by "giving" extra paid holidays to people.
S1M VP said:
I think more to the point, why do you think you should be entitled to an extra days holiday ... Which I assume you want to be paid for?
Well, because in my contract I am entitled to 1.9 holiday days a month + bank holidays. So if the 5th is marked as a bank holiday, I am entitled to it - easy.Loskey said:
That does sound fair.
We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
If your T&C reads along the lines of x days holiday entitlement plus standard 8 bank holidays/statutory public holidays then the extra bank holiday is a normal working day for you. As usual the devil is in the detail and you will need to refer to your T&C.We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
edc said:
Loskey said:
That does sound fair.
We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
If your T&C reads along the lines of x days holiday entitlement plus standard 8 bank holidays/statutory public holidays then the extra bank holiday is a normal working day for you. As usual the devil is in the detail and you will need to refer to your T&C.We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
As I understand; if the number of bank hols is mentioned then the extra day doesn't count; however, if it isn't then you may well be entitled to payment.
If your total holiday count is mentioned (i.e. 28 days) then you are entitled to the day off but without payment. You may be asked to take it in leu.
Loskey said:
My company has said that we have to work the 5th June Bank Holiday for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee and it will be treated as a normal working day.
Does anyone know the law on this?
Do we have any right?
Id give one of my bDoes anyone know the law on this?
Do we have any right?
ks for a job right now! Tell your boss i'll work the bank holiday if he gives me your job. You wanna be grateful that your in a job and in a position to support your family. Some of us at the minute dont have that luxury.I was under the impression that Statuary days holidays were decided by the goverment and are a legal entitlement by the laws of statute.
Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
NoNeed said:
I was under the impression that Statuary days holidays were decided by the goverment and are a legal entitlement by the laws of statute.
Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
As above there is no entitlement, unless your contract says so, to have any bank holiday off. The legal position is dictated by the contract or other T&C document.Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
edc said:
NoNeed said:
I was under the impression that Statuary days holidays were decided by the goverment and are a legal entitlement by the laws of statute.
Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
As above there is no entitlement, unless your contract says so, to have any bank holiday off. The legal position is dictated by the contract or other T&C document.Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
NoNeed said:
edc said:
NoNeed said:
I was under the impression that Statuary days holidays were decided by the goverment and are a legal entitlement by the laws of statute.
Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
As above there is no entitlement, unless your contract says so, to have any bank holiday off. The legal position is dictated by the contract or other T&C document.Wether you agree with them or not, wether they are right or wrong, the OP is asking what the legal position is.
Every company I have worked for has always paid double time for bank holiday working and this year there are 9 instead of the usual 8
ETA you are correct sir. I just read this http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/T...
edc said:
Loskey said:
That does sound fair.
We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
If your T&C reads along the lines of x days holiday entitlement plus standard 8 bank holidays/statutory public holidays then the extra bank holiday is a normal working day for you. As usual the devil is in the detail and you will need to refer to your T&C.We all assumed that we would be taking the day off as unpaid leave but can they force us to come to work and treating it as a normal day
said:
"You do not have a statutory right to paid leave on bank and public holidays. If your employer gives paid leave on a bank or public holiday, this can count towards your minimum holiday entitlement. There are eight permanent bank and public holidays in England and Wales (nine in Scotland and ten in Northern Ireland).
If you work on a bank or public holiday, there is no automatic right to an enhanced pay rate. What you get paid depends on your contract of employment.
If you are part time and your employer gives workers additional time off on bank holidays, this should be given pro rata to you as well, even if the bank holiday does not fall on your usual work day."
I get it off paid, and the only way I would work it would be for at least 1.5, or 2.0 rate of pay.If you work on a bank or public holiday, there is no automatic right to an enhanced pay rate. What you get paid depends on your contract of employment.
If you are part time and your employer gives workers additional time off on bank holidays, this should be given pro rata to you as well, even if the bank holiday does not fall on your usual work day."
S1M VP said:
I think more to the point, why do you think you should be entitled to an extra days holiday ... Which I assume you want to be paid for?
I've said to my employees that with the normal notice of booking holidays my guys can either
- take the day off as either part of their annual holiday entitlement
- take the day off unpaid but as an authorised absence
- or they work
Whichever, noone gets a free paid days holiday.
From an employers perspective, I pay the by the hour and accrue holidays for them, but can only charge our customers for actual hours my guys work at the customer site.
It would cost a fortune off the bottom line by "giving" extra paid holidays to people.
Just to counter that. Why should employers assume that the extra day we have this year (February 29th) should be a working day? When 3 out of every 4 years it doesn't exist?I've said to my employees that with the normal notice of booking holidays my guys can either
- take the day off as either part of their annual holiday entitlement
- take the day off unpaid but as an authorised absence
- or they work
Whichever, noone gets a free paid days holiday.
From an employers perspective, I pay the by the hour and accrue holidays for them, but can only charge our customers for actual hours my guys work at the customer site.
It would cost a fortune off the bottom line by "giving" extra paid holidays to people.
Swings and roundabouts. Just sayin'
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