Personal Alcohol Licences - Good idea or not?
Personal Alcohol Licences - Good idea or not?
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carmarthenf1

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129 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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http://www.alcohollicence.org/personal-alcohol-lic...

Love to hear views on this! I off to the pub for lunch!


Puggit

49,831 posts

279 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I hate regulation, but I can see how this has merit.

However, the current law doesn't stop under-age kids getting hold of booze.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Not a good thing.

As usual those who play by the rules will be hammered and those that flout them will still do so.


AJS-

15,366 posts

267 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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More state snooping and controls. Yeah, great idea. We clearly don't have enough yet.

bga

8,134 posts

282 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Racingdude (John Cowan) is back to his best!

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

275 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I love the bit about if I were deemed to be drinking heavily my GP would be informed and I would be asked to drop in for a chat. I haven't seen a doctor in about 20 years and I'm sure GPs would appreciate the extra workload.

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Because driving licences keep idiots off the road. rolleyes

Reminds me of when my mate lived in Oman. You needed a booze licence to shop at the offie. The only 'good' thing might be the resurrection of the traditional 'public house' perhaps? People clubbing together for a licence per street. Hardly likely though and, in essence, the idea is another example of a crappily conceived assault on freedom.

ETA would the 'three pint turn' constitute on the the licence test drills?

otolith

69,623 posts

235 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Ludicrous control freakery.

Hoofy

80,163 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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One day, in the next 500 years, I'm hoping that a government will realise that education will go a lot further than simply banning things. I think I'd rather put money on a horse at the 13:40 in Wetherby.

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Hoofy said:
One day, in the next 500 years, I'm hoping that a government will realise that education will go a lot further than simply banning things. I think I'd rather put money on a horse at the 13:40 in Wetherby.
In which case 'they' may (in future) arrange an appointment for you, with your GP, to discuss a referral to a psychiatrist to discuss your gambling problem.

Hoofy

80,163 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Digga said:
In which case 'they' may (in future) arrange an appointment for you, with your GP, to discuss a referral to a psychiatrist to discuss your gambling problem.
It's only a problem when you're losing. thumbup

But surely the current path is to create gambling licences. With education, children would be taught about addictions at school and how to recognise such things in themselves and people around them rather than just thinking "gambling is bad!". Denmark's fat tax just suggests that eating high calorie food will make you fat. It will but then should everyone avoid high calorie food even if they are perfectly healthy and don't have an eating disorder? Education is a smarter route so that people can make choices.

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 21st February 11:48

Hoofy

80,163 posts

313 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Chrisw666

22,655 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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carmarthenf1 said:
http://www.alcohollicence.org/personal-alcohol-lic...

Love to hear views on this! I off to the pub for lunch!
Are you John Cowan or are you his biggest stalker ever?

StevieBee

15,476 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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carmarthenf1 said:
http://www.alcohollicence.org/personal-alcohol-lic...

Love to hear views on this! I off to the pub for lunch!
Totally unworkable.

What about tourists and overseas visitors?

IMO, alcohol consumption is simply about culture.

In Sweden, anything over 3.5% has to be purchased from government owned off licenses and is very very expensive. Does this prevent binge and underage drinking? Nope.

In most parts of Eastern Europe, booze is stupidly cheap and largely unregulated. Does this result in mass alcoholism and wide-spread anti-social behaviour. Nope. Opposite in fact.


Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Bad. It'll be hugely bureaucratic and will make no difference to anyone's drinking.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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jeff m2

2,060 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I'm not sure licensing is all that bad if it remains a licence and does not become a form of taxation.

So after a re-think and considering that most licenses do become forms of taxation that would be a no.

But I am still willing to take the test.
Does anyone know what the requirements would be, 4 pints per hour maybe.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

264 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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jeff m2 said:
I'm not sure licensing is all that bad if it remains a licence and does not become a form of taxation.

So after a re-think and considering that most licenses do become forms of taxation that would be a no.

But I am still willing to take the test.
Does anyone know what the requirements would be, 4 pints per hour maybe.
As you say the £50 application fee and £30 renewal fee...

Add to this that within a few years you will only be able to buy so many units per day/week...

No way in hell do I want yet another fetter on life that is only even being thought of because there are a bunch of LCD's that can't run their own lives without fking them up.

Sorry, getting a little tired of having to jump through stupid hoops for stupid reasons which are only in place to stop the stupid killing themselves and therefore are only resulting in more and more stupid people being kept alive and produce even more intellectually sub optimal fk trophies.

jeff m2

2,060 posts

182 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Rude-boy said:
jeff m2 said:
I'm not sure licensing is all that bad if it remains a licence and does not become a form of taxation.

So after a re-think and considering that most licenses do become forms of taxation that would be a no.

But I am still willing to take the test.
Does anyone know what the requirements would be, 4 pints per hour maybe.
As you say the £50 application fee and £30 renewal fee...

Add to this that within a few years you will only be able to buy so many units per day/week...

No way in hell do I want yet another fetter on life that is only even being thought of because there are a bunch of LCD's that can't run their own lives without fking them up.

Sorry, getting a little tired of having to jump through stupid hoops for stupid reasons which are only in place to stop the stupid killing themselves and therefore are only resulting in more and more stupid people being kept alive and produce even more intellectually sub optimal fk trophies.


Don't worry I'll take the test, get a licence, then take you out for a beer if you don't mind wearing "L" plates.

Du1point8

22,960 posts

223 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Chrisw666 said:
carmarthenf1 said:
http://www.alcohollicence.org/personal-alcohol-lic...

Love to hear views on this! I off to the pub for lunch!
Are you John Cowan or are you his biggest stalker ever?
First of all I was thinking that Racing dude/JC was the biggest loon on here.... then this freak turns up and stalks him and the only time he posts is in reference to JC.

I really think Carmarthenf1 needs a straight jacket, a padded room and some serious help... it aint healthy what he is up to.