Dolphins 'are non-human persons'
Dolphins 'are non-human persons'
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Apache

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39,731 posts

315 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Mmmn, this should cause a little concern in Japan

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/dolphins-are-non-huma...

Eric Mc

125,870 posts

296 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I always knew Flipper was trying to tell us something.

carmonk

7,910 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Silly phraseology aside it seems reasonable.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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There was a sketch on the Daily Show about performing Killer Whales being emancipated from slavery at Seaworld, under the 13th amendment to the US constitution on last nights show, very funny. You won't be able to walk a dog on a lead/leash next was it's satirical point.

Apache

Original Poster:

39,731 posts

315 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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"She said: "We went from seeing the dolphin/whale brain as being a giant amorphous blob that doesn't carry a lot of intelligence and complexity to not only being an enormous brain but an enormous brain with an enormous amount of complexity, and a complexity that rivals our own. It's different in the way it's put together but in terms of the level of complexity it's very similar to the human brain.""

so.......complex then

General Bilko

266 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I always knew Flipper was trying to tell us something.
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"?

mattviatura

2,996 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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General Bilko said:
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"?
Carp joke.

Eric Mc

125,870 posts

296 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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General Bilko said:
Eric Mc said:
I always knew Flipper was trying to tell us something.
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"?
More like "I want to renegotiate my contract - there's something fishy about it".

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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mattviatura said:
General Bilko said:
"So long, and thanks for all the fish"?
Carp joke.
That put him in his plaice...

IroningMan

10,598 posts

277 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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You did that on porpoise.

Eric Mc

125,870 posts

296 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Tou're SKATing on thin ice there.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

216 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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If a human conciousness was put into a whale/dolphin body I'd expect the same kinds of behaviour that I see now from normal dolphins/whales.

There's only so much intelligence you can demonstrate when you don't have a voice box and thumbs.

Is say this is a good thing! Lets hope it stops Japan slaughtering them.

Halb

53,012 posts

214 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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carmonk said:
Silly phraseology aside it seems reasonable.
I believe so.
As people move away from the Christian idea that other animals are there just for our use, the knowledge we learn from studying the other animals reveals very complex societies and in some cases very 'human' qualities.
Cetaceans as with some other creatures have been discovered to have cultures, which would have been pooh-poohed at only relatively recently.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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I've halibut enough of these fish puns.

budgie smuggler

6,087 posts

190 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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sounds like a right load of pollocks to me

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Meh... If they were so intelligent, why do they keep getting trapped in the tuna nets? scratchchin

Allaloneatron

3,123 posts

271 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Meh... If they were so intelligent, why do they keep getting trapped in the tuna nets? scratchchin

mondeoman

11,430 posts

297 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Allaloneatron said:
TheHeretic said:
Meh... If they were so intelligent, why do they keep getting trapped in the tuna nets? scratchchin
She did that on porpoise, bet she's from whales smile

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Meh... If they were so intelligent, why do they keep getting trapped in the tuna nets? scratchchin
Because the nets are designed to catch big things swimming about in the water?

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Tuesday 21st February 2012
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Apache said:
"She said: "We went from seeing the dolphin/whale brain as being a giant amorphous blob that doesn't carry a lot of intelligence and complexity to not only being an enormous brain but an enormous brain with an enormous amount of complexity, and a complexity that rivals our own. It's different in the way it's put together but in terms of the level of complexity it's very similar to the human brain.""

so.......complex then
The first part of her quote seems to describe the brains of much of humanity.