Parking fine on Uni campus - wrong year on ticket

[whatnow]

My GF got a ticket whilst parked in the Uni car park lat week. She was dropping stuff off, and totally forgot to get a ticket. When she realised she ran out to her car only to find a warden writing out a ticket before slapping it on her windscreen. He was a right smarmy footer about it too. Her fault, she knows this, but she was still upset.
I've seen plenty of advice on here before about the legalities of "invoices" given on different types of land, railway, supermarkets, etc and wondered if this is enforceable?
To add to the mix, the dozy old Plonker wrote the date as February 2010!!! Not even close, FFS.
If it matters, the company is called EPM and it's says it's a "parking charge notice"
Any advice appreciated.
Cheers

[turbolucie]

/standard PH answer

Throw it in the bin, means nothing unless it's from a council.

/standard PH answer

[bertie]

If she was in the worng and knows it, why is she trying to avoid the fine?

[Mikeyplum]

bertie said:

If she was in the worng and knows it, why is she trying to avoid the fine?

Because its not a fine?

[miniman]

bertie said:

If she was in the worng and knows it, why is she trying to avoid the fine?

Let's say, for example, that this summer there's a hosepipe ban which you ignore. Your neighbour puts an invoice through your letterbox "fining" you £50. Are you going to pay it?

[Streps]

I take it's from "Ethical Parking Management"
As far as i'm aware it's a unenforceable invoice that you can simply ignore.

Instead give some change to a donkey charity or something.
File it in the bin.

[bertie]

miniman said:

Let's say, for example, that this summer there's a hosepipe ban which you ignore. Your neighbour puts an invoice through your letterbox "fining" you £50. Are you going to pay it?

I've just put in a rainwater harvesting tank so I'm ok!

To the OP, watch this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

Edited by bertie on Wednesday 22 February 17:37

[whatnow]

bertie said:

I've just put in a rainwater harvesting tank so I'm ok!

To the OP, watch this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA

Edited by bertie on Wednesday 22 February 17:37

Nice clip that. Thanks for all your replies people!
I'll file it in the bin as suggested.

[ninja-lewis]

Bear in mind that if she is a student, the University may prevent her from matriculating next year or graduating if she has unpaid fines outstanding. Routinely happens with library and accommodation fines so I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for parking fines - best to check that before ignoring.

[so called]

ninja-lewis said:

Bear in mind that if she is a student, the University may prevent her from matriculating next year or graduating if she has unpaid fines outstanding. Routinely happens with library and accommodation fines so I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for parking fines - best to check that before ignoring.

She can respond next year that she ddint get one in 2012 but that she has an old one from 2010 ?

[anonymous-user]

Is there a reason why, as these "charges" are simply invoices that have little legal standing, you can't park in these car parks every day, for example, instead of using the long stay car park at the station? You'd get a letter every day but could just bin them and carry on, saving £25 or however much a week? Would you end up clamped? (assume you don't park in a disabled bay, but park in a far corner taking one of the less popular spaces)

[TomTheTyke]

OpulentBob said:

Is there a reason why, as these "charges" are simply invoices that have little legal standing, you can't park in these car parks every day, for example, instead of using the long stay car park at the station? You'd get a letter every day but could just bin them and carry on, saving £25 or however much a week? Would you end up clamped? (assume you don't park in a disabled bay, but park in a far corner taking one of the less popular spaces)

my thoughts exactly. I have also heard a few times that only a proper traffic warden employed by the council can give you an enforceable parking ticket, but what's to stop this sort of behaviour? Would it just be a case of them getting the police involved eventually as you would effectively be trespassing as there without permission?

[davepoth]

ninja-lewis said:

Bear in mind that if she is a student, the University may prevent her from matriculating next year or graduating if she has unpaid fines outstanding. Routinely happens with library and accommodation fines so I wouldn't be surprised if they do the same for parking fines - best to check that before ignoring.

Yes, a friend of mine got caught out this way - the university will probably have something similar in place.

[turbolucie]

If the university know who the car belongs to and the fine company tell the university then perhaps an outside chance of being prevented from graduating. However in my experience if you throw them away they never bother finding out your address from the DVLA and you never hear from them again.

[nanafagis]

Had loads of these at work as we're situated on uni campus. Basically parking eye or similar are given permission to patrol the carpark after midnight by the uni. So in the event that you have to work overnight you're fair game to these fascists!

The biggest kick in the fanny is not only am I stuck at work doing a 30 hour shift to hit a deadline for them, for £ZERO Overtime then i get cockslapped in the face with an invoice for my troubles from the same employer! Haha

Anyway back on topic. Bin it. And make no contact with them to protest the fine as the invoice is to the driver of the car at that time. If they can't prove who was driving, they can't call you to court in the coming weeks to collect what you "owe them"

Slap 100 bogus tickets on cars and i bet 90 people pay up - not a bad nights work

Edited by nanafagis on Wednesday 22 February 19:31

[aw51 121565]

Re: "bin it" comments - don't.

Keep it safe in a drawer or filing cabinet somewhere on a just in case basis. Highly unlikely you'll need it, but...

And, optionally but for extra points, go and visit the head of the University's Law School/Department and ask him/her/it about the legality of these speculative invoices .

[Mikeyplum]

OpulentBob said:

Is there a reason why, as these "charges" are simply invoices that have little legal standing, you can't park in these car parks every day, for example, instead of using the long stay car park at the station? You'd get a letter every day but could just bin them and carry on, saving £25 or however much a week? Would you end up clamped? (assume you don't park in a disabled bay, but park in a far corner taking one of the less popular spaces)

The £25 is payable, however if you don't pay it, the company would have to persue it through the County Court, which, for £25 is highly unlikely. If, however, you do this on a regular basis and rack up, say, £1000 worth of invoices, they are more likely to persue you through the Courts for the debt.

[essayer]

Mikeyplum said:

The £25 is payable, however if you don't pay it, the company would have to persue it through the County Court, which, for £25 is highly unlikely. If, however, you do this on a regular basis and rack up, say, £1000 worth of invoices, they are more likely to persue you through the Courts for the debt.

Or alternatively, if it's like my uni was, if you had any fines unpaid at the end of the year (parking, library, accommodation etc) you wouldn't be allowed to graduate until you had paid the fines

[Darkk]

Those guys are great...

Got one last week, for 700£, for 8 minutes extra. Parked there for 2h08min, only payed for 2hrs...

Straight to the bin...

[Mikeyplum]

essayer said:

Or alternatively, if it's like my uni was, if you had any fines unpaid at the end of the year (parking, library, accommodation etc) you wouldn't be allowed to graduate until you had paid the fines

Gotcha by the short and curly's there didn't they!