Help Astra G Z18XE
Help Astra G Z18XE
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Monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Please help

Got a 52 plate Astra which had all sorts of problems with and iam ready to throw the towel in.

Its had a bit of a hard life but the timing belt has snapped and the head was rebuilt. Then the engine developed a bad smoking problem so the engine was changed.

Everything is good now but the EML light comes on and off and stores no fault, but i have had an auto spark look at it and he is saying that its an ghost fault in the ECU. The ecu has been away for testing and no fault found.

But iam thinking that they might no find a fault if its a ghost fault, the Ecu thinks there is a midfire in 1.3.4 cylinders when there is no misfire.

So anyone know what i can do now apart from scrapping it, good car when it works and wanna keep a hold of it.

Shenanigans

2,964 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Monaro5.7 said:
Please help

Got a 52 plate Astra which had all sorts of problems with and iam ready to throw the towel in.

Its had a bit of a hard life but the timing belt has snapped and the head was rebuilt. Then the engine developed a bad smoking problem so the engine was changed.

Everything is good now but the EML light comes on and off and stores no fault, but i have had an auto spark look at it and he is saying that its an ghost fault in the ECU. The ecu has been away for testing and no fault found.

But iam thinking that they might no find a fault if its a ghost fault, the Ecu thinks there is a midfire in 1.3.4 cylinders when there is no misfire.

So anyone know what i can do now apart from scrapping it, good car when it works and wanna keep a hold of it.
New ECU from a scrappies?

Monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Shenanigans said:
New ECU from a scrappies?
Been told that the ECU is a one trick pony and cant use one out a scrappies or that would of been my next port of call.

But anyone got a spare one let me know wink

KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Can the ECU be mapped?

Monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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KB_S1 said:
Can the ECU be mapped?
Thats interesting thought mate, dont know the answer but i might look into it smile

kevbridgend

260 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Si is the car running ok

If it's coming up with random misfires but not storing codes the xe engines were bad to sticky valves

I assume you've ruled out coil packs plugs and leads etc

Monaro5.7

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Thursday 23rd February 2012
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kevbridgend said:
Si is the car running ok

If it's coming up with random misfires but not storing codes the xe engines were bad to sticky valves

I assume you've ruled out coil packs plugs and leads etc
Yeah its had a new engine fitted and coil packs fitted, an auto spark has looked at it and downed the Ecu. He has tld us that the ecu has a ghost fault, the ecu thinks the car has a misfire over 3 cylinders and drops into limp mode but the car does not have a misfire, supposed to be a common fault on these engines.

Any idea mate? new ecu?

kevbridgend

260 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Yeah we've done a few on these.

But normally it throws up a permanent fault. Has someone checked the main wiring loom as they were prone to break

Monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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kevbridgend said:
Yeah we've done a few on these.

But normally it throws up a permanent fault. Has someone checked the main wiring loom as they were prone to break
Well had ecu checked and no fault found, so autospark has said get ecu back and fit Vauxhall plugs and he will check loom.

Wonder if its worth getting some fuel treatment into it aswell cheap fix

kevbridgend

260 posts

193 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Has the misfire only happened since the engine was fitted

Monaro5.7

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209 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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kevbridgend said:
Has the misfire only happened since the engine was fitted
yeah in the last 6 months

Chuck328

1,633 posts

197 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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Engine smoking after head skimmed. Engine changed? Who rebuilt the engine? Sounds to me like they may have neglected to change the valve stem seals at the first rebuild? Not a big job, just fiddly ( I talk from personal experience).

What condition is the knock sensor? When the belt on my Astra went, the knock sensor was stripped exposing the copper wiring. Granted this may be nothing to do with the ghost misfire you are having but perhaps worth a check?

Lastly, stupid as this may seem, the EML light on my Astra still flickers on and off to this day, yet after my rebuild the car has run without problem.

I'll ask my mate about your experience when I get a chance.

Monaro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Chuck328 said:
Engine smoking after head skimmed. Engine changed? Who rebuilt the engine? Sounds to me like they may have neglected to change the valve stem seals at the first rebuild? Not a big job, just fiddly ( I talk from personal experience).

What condition is the knock sensor? When the belt on my Astra went, the knock sensor was stripped exposing the copper wiring. Granted this may be nothing to do with the ghost misfire you are having but perhaps worth a check?

Lastly, stupid as this may seem, the EML light on my Astra still flickers on and off to this day, yet after my rebuild the car has run without problem.

I'll ask my mate about your experience when I get a chance.
Thanks for this Will get it checked.