Diesel Range Rover engine gone pop..
Diesel Range Rover engine gone pop..
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Taff107

Original Poster:

568 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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A colleague who owns a 2004 Range Rover seems to have had some kind of oil blockage which has resulted in the engine giving up the ghost. She has been quoted nearly 7k for a replacement engine fitted by a main dealer(!!) and offered £700 for it by the garage if she wants to get rid. Now, as you can imagine she's pretty fed up but thinks (quite rightly) that £700 is daylight robbery.
Surely, it would be possible to get a reconditioned one fitted cheaper, no? If she is adamant on getting rid, I'm thinking of putting in an offer. What do you think would be the max to offer?
Any help is appreciated

budrover

300 posts

228 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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One assumes its a TD6 range rover.

Its a 6 cylinder BMW engine ....normally very robust but can suffer if the engine breathers are not changed at service and the turbo starts consuming the engine oil until it seizes.

The engine is shared with the X5 / 330 530 + 730.

You can normally pick up a 2nd hand one for £1500 minus ancillaries ...but the orginal engine will have them.

So allow £1000 to change ...£1500 for engine and £500 contingency fund ...it sounds like a £3k problem to me.

You need to buy an engine of the same era ...the newer engine has the crank sensor in a different location so the present ecu will be no good.

Taff107

Original Poster:

568 posts

173 months

Friday 24th February 2012
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budrover said:
One assumes its a TD6 range rover.

Its a 6 cylinder BMW engine ....normally very robust but can suffer if the engine breathers are not changed at service and the turbo starts consuming the engine oil until it seizes.

The engine is shared with the X5 / 330 530 + 730.

You can normally pick up a 2nd hand one for £1500 minus ancillaries ...but the orginal engine will have them.

So allow £1000 to change ...£1500 for engine and £500 contingency fund ...it sounds like a £3k problem to me.

You need to buy an engine of the same era ...the newer engine has the crank sensor in a different location so the present ecu will be no good.
Tx bud. A mechanic mate has said that he would swap them over for about £500 however programming would have to be done by a 3rd party as he doesn't have the gear. Ok, so all I need to get now is a decent refurbed engine. Know of anywhere reputable that can supply or is it just a case of trawling ebay? Any advice you can give with regard to finding a new 'lump'? I'm wary as I don't want to be buying some trashed pos off ebay.
(As you may have picked up, I've never done this sort of thing before and mechanical knowledge is limited to bikes thus far smile )

vincenz

691 posts

256 months

Saturday 25th February 2012
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When I had a BMW fab were always very good:

http://www.fabdirect.com/

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I will give a £1000 for it its a lot of work to sort it. only if you are in the uk. gearbox my have issue as well.

lost in espace

6,487 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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My offer is £1,001. Final offer.

Stinkfoot

2,245 posts

216 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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topguns said:
I will give a £1000 for it its a lot of work to sort it. only if you are in the uk. gearbox my have issue as well.
rofl

POORCARDEALER

8,644 posts

265 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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I will give 4 grand.

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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If I was the owner I would snap your hand off @ 4G, spoke to a friend main dealer today they right them off with the insurer. Let us know the full cost when you get it done if you get that far. Ho & how well it runs when you have finish? & don’t forget while the engines out recondition the box and the oil cooler for the gearbox it will have been over heated you can bet your life on that, sounds like cheap skate servicing gone on through out its life.

Stinkfoot

2,245 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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The reason they are written off is because customers are too fking gullble / stupid / rich or whatever. Four grand is cheap as its up to 15 grand up and running.

I had a look around yesterday and can source an engine and box without too much trouble so 3 grand tops should get the car back on the road so buy it for a grand, repair it for 3K and sell for around 15000k ( ok lets say 12k to fair).

Hello 8 grand profit in less than a month wink

Edited by Stinkfoot on Friday 2nd March 09:30

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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ok` did you forget £100 per hour labour charge new turbo not forgetting this is old eng/gearbox may last a week are you going to pull it down first and look inside cost again other problems transfer unit final drive unit workshop costs a ramp & tools. The only way is the right way new engine & gearbox away to a specialist. I don’t want it, but how many of you have your own workshop at hand to deal with this kind of work very few I would say. Look on ebay full of back garden unfinished projects.

POORCARDEALER

8,644 posts

265 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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My offer stands I have a complete engine and box here from a damaged car....if the car has done average milage and is in a sensible colour/spec its worth circa 9-10K in the trade done, and obviously more retail.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

273 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Do I hear £4,250 from topguns?

A.J.M

8,334 posts

210 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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topguns said:
ok` did you forget £100 per hour labour charge new turbo not forgetting this is old eng/gearbox may last a week are you going to pull it down first and look inside cost again other problems transfer unit final drive unit workshop costs a ramp & tools. The only way is the right way new engine & gearbox away to a specialist. I don’t want it, but how many of you have your own workshop at hand to deal with this kind of work very few I would say. Look on ebay full of back garden unfinished projects.
£100 per hour labour?? rofl
Where are you going for £100 labour rates?
My local garages are £30-50 an hour, i recon with new engine and full service, inc flushing out the gearbox oils and diffs etc, you could do it all for 3 grand all in.

Are you the seller by any chance?

Stinkfoot

2,245 posts

216 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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My local garage charges 45 quid an hour and my garden effectively backs on them so no problem with distance. They have all the coding stuff needed for RR too. Nothing hard about doing the job either and they said 3500k would be about right all in.

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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She has been quoted nearly 7k for a replacement engine fitted by a main dealer £100 per hour money well spent. proper job.

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Sadly the gear boxes in the td6's are weak and they fail every 60-90k miles and a recon box won't stop it failing again in the future.

I fear nothing, but my next repair bill.

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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found this one for your lady friend if I find any more I will put it on this page for you




Tel: 0777 2 555 164
BREAKING RANGE ROVER VOGUE DIESEL 2004 MODEL

PLEASE NOTE: I have diesel parts only!!!


Please RING for a speedy response as not always in the office

I DO NOT have any 4.4 V8 petrol engines ... sorry...



Engine has covered 54K miles, complete with injectors & diesel pump, air-con compressor, power steering pump, inlet manifold, engine wiring loom, viscose fan, alternator & exhaust manifold, all perfect working condition,


well this is one £2500

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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I am not the one talking £££££££££ profit! if porche man has a power unit get on the phone to them help the poor lady out, I am sure you can let them have it for £1500 delivered with a 50`000 mile warenty? I can but it will cost 7k for me to do it, no brainer your the man.
A.J.M said:
£100 per hour labour?? rofl
Where are you going for £100 labour rates?
My local garages are £30-50 an hour, i recon with new engine and full service, inc flushing out the gearbox oils and diffs etc, you could do it all for 3 grand all in.

Are you the seller by any chance?

topguns

12 posts

170 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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what`s your thoughts on this debate Taff107 ?