Detained at airport for veil comment

[General Bilko]

Latest 'Politically Correct' enforcement combined with humourless security staff urine heating story

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...

Artice said:

Placing his belongings, including a scarf, into a tray to pass through the X-ray scanner he spotted a Muslim woman in hijab pass through the area without showing her face.

In a light-hearted aside to a security official who had been assisting him, he said: “If I was wearing this scarf over my face, I wonder what would happen.”

...then he found out!!

[Vieste]

What a joke

[TheHeretic]

So, making perfectly valid points is seemingly punished? Plus, is it the responsibility of security staff to police apparent racism?

[Streps]

Airport security guard said:

“I know what you mean, but we have our rules, and you aren’t allowed to say that.”

Erm... why not?
So the muslim guard took offense by the sounds of it.
Just seems a bit silly.

[glazbagun]

TheHeretic said:

So, making perfectly valid points is seemingly punished? Plus, is it the responsibility of security staff to police apparent racism?

+1 Surely that's illegal detention.

[Eric Mc]

Don't people ever learn.

NEVER try to crack jokes when undergoing security or immigration processing.

[davepoth]

Eric Mc said:

Don't people ever learn.

NEVER try to crack jokes when undergoing security or immigration processing.

And it's always been the way.

[The_Burg]

Are you seriously telling me muslim women can go through security face covered? Surely this cannot be true.

[TheD]

We know we should never do it, but is the point here that there was no actual racist comment made, and he was held for a time that could be deemed illegal. Plus he had a valid point.

[B Huey]

Airport security staff in no sense of humour shocker!

[paddyhasneeds]

They don't exactly do themselves any favours do they?

[Eric Mc]

paddyhasneeds said:

They don't exactly do themselves any favours do they?

They aren't interested in doing themselves favours. They have a serious job to do and they take it seriously

I'm 100% with security and immigration staff . They have a hard enough job without smart-alecs trying to impress their mates with their "wit".

[TheHeretic]

Eric Mc said:

They aren't interested in doing themselves favours. They have a serious job to do and they take it seriously

I'm 100% with security and immigration staff . They have a hard enough job without smart-alecs trying to impress their mates with their "wit".

And any of that is reason for holding someone how?

[richinleeds]

Eric Mc said:

They aren't interested in doing themselves favours. They have a serious job to do and they take it seriously

I'm 100% with security and immigration staff . They have a hard enough job without smart-alecs trying to impress their mates with their "wit".

errrr he wasn't with his mates or trying to impress them with his wit, and how is anything he said a risk to security?

[anonymous-user]

"that skirt's a bit short"

"you racist!"

[cal216610]

TheD said:

We know we should never do it, but is the point here that there was no actual racist comment made, and he was held for a time that could be deemed illegal. Plus he had a valid point.

+1
From my point of view it was a legitimate question.

[MartG]

Streps said:

So the muslim guard took offense by the sounds of it.

Reading the article, it seems the muslim guard wasn't even present when the remark was made, but was still 'deeply offended' by it, presumably when a colleague repeated it to her

Seems like going out of their way to be offended - very silly indeed IMO

[Gene Vincent]

Eric Mc said:

paddyhasneeds said:

They don't exactly do themselves any favours do they?

They aren't interested in doing themselves favours. They have a serious job to do and they take it seriously

I'm 100% with security and immigration staff . They have a hard enough job without smart-alecs trying to impress their mates with their "wit".

Actually, they do need to do themselves favours and keep the law abiding on their side.

Almost all security successes stem from information from the general public.

This incident is typical of the 'jobsworth', the modern jobsworth in authority has lots of tiny minded laws in which he can take refuge.

To compound the issue though is the less than satisfactory statement:

A spokesman for Gatwick airport said: “The security team are examining the incident to ensure that the issue was managed in the right way... They are talking to the people involved to understand what the issue was and how it came to have the police involved.”

The use of the word 'ensure' is the nub of the issue, if a person hadn't already decided to close ranks the word would have been 'investigate'... 'ensure' is a foregone conclusion.

That's it then, Gatwick Security joins the list of 'potentially useless' in the fight against terrorism as it simply just fills in boxes and is controlled by things learnt as rote.

The incident tells me and any terrorist that Gatwick is the domain of the idiot and go there to smuggle stuff through.

Idiotic behaviour is the sole domain of the idiot and idiots are not god at keeping anything, let alone a country, safe.

[paddyhasneeds]

Eric Mc said:

paddyhasneeds said:

They don't exactly do themselves any favours do they?

They aren't interested in doing themselves favours. They have a serious job to do and they take it seriously

I'm 100% with security and immigration staff . They have a hard enough job without smart-alecs trying to impress their mates with their "wit".

Sorry Eric but I disagree with you. Make jokes/comments about bombs in an airport and you deserve everything that you get.

It also appears that the airport security staff weren't trying to make any kind of security incident of the case as if they had they would have called the Police immediately, rather they tried to play the race card, which perhaps tells you all you need to know about whether the issue was about security.

[Magic919]

Quite why she'd need to show her face to go through the body scanner, I don't know. What a stupid thing to say.