Official coffee geek thread - modding Gaggias etc
Official coffee geek thread - modding Gaggias etc
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Pupp

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12,930 posts

300 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Having just replaced a malfuntioning old machine with a shiny new one, have a ready source of spares to try some mods in pursuit of the perfect espresso...

First on the list will probably be a bottomless portafilter (advantages supposed to be big bouncy crema, and more room for bigger cups etc, downside is that imperfect grind and tamping technique may end up with coffee all over the gaffe)

Variable pressure and a gauge appeals too


Zod

35,295 posts

286 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Naked is the way to go. if you have a good tamper and get your grind right (it may need varying by a notch from day to day according to age of the beans and atmospheric humidity), it will pour OK.

cqueen

2,645 posts

248 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I'm assuming you have a 'Classic'? - Damn you could have bought one from me if my website was live!

I've carried out the Rancilio steam wand upgrade on mine - big improvement.

Dr G

15,940 posts

270 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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I have a classic and always fancied chopping the crappy spout off the bottom of the filter, let us know how yous turns out!

There's a chap on ebay doing a purpose built 'naked' one for 40 quid.

dave_s13

14,015 posts

297 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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WTF?

I've got a gaggia cubika.

Are you chaps saying its possible to turbo charge these things? How? Explain.

Dr G

15,940 posts

270 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Yeah, have a look at the forums on coffeegeek etc.

Compared to that lot I might as well drink Morrisons instant laugh

Pupp

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12,930 posts

300 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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The new one is a Classic; the replaced one is a Baby Class. I imagine they are very similar internally (although the reservoir and solenoid evacuation port are very differently arranged) but the Classic is by a large margin the better performer in terms of speed of shot pulling and quality of the brew (even allowing for newness etc; the Baby was always marginal for some reason and I wonder if it was a special di pomeriggio di Venerdì).

Had intended to replace it with a commercial grade machine when it was time to pension it off but withdrawal symptoms took over when it died (again) last week and the Classic was on offer at a good price (assuming the bugger works for a reasonable time). So the Baby is now available for tinkering... smile

The steam wand on the Baby is a better component than the Classic's so that might be on the list to switch.




Pupp

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12,930 posts

300 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Okay... original portafilter (off the Baby) now converted into a naked job after 20 mins with a holesaw and file etc. First surprise encountered (of many I suspect).

For some odd reason, and without any indication on the packaging or bumph for the new machine, Gaggia have changed the filter basket design from the traditional 'strainer' type to a 'pressurised' format that has just one tiny pin hole in the centre rather than the watering can arrangement we're all used to.

As my original Baby basket was showing signs of blockage, I just popped the new one into the converted naked portafilter, then got a demitasse full of foamy 'crema' with nothing else (save lots of steam) for my trouble. The new style baskets clearly need the spouted PF (and a plastic widget that fits in the spout) to convert the foam back to liquid coffee. It's espresso Jim but not as we know it... frown

I think this change (plus maybe increased pumping pressure to match) accounts for the apparent difference in performance of two outwardly similar machines.

So, an hour with a pin later, one unblocked traditional basket in the modded PF, and....ermm.... no crema at all (on the same grind)! Aghhh frown

A much finer grind later, *very* robust tamping, and we have traditional espresso again (although not quite the bouncy fluffy crema with inky sweet black velvet underneath yet, that I was hoping for).

Maybe time for a shiny new traditional basket (seems the pin method is not approved for basket maintenance)... may also need a burr set for the grinder! smile


cqueen

2,645 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Annoying isn't it? I often look through the machine catalouges and think "oooo good price - want one!" until I read the details to see that it has a pressurised basket.

p.s. my company now stocks all gaggia espesso machines & Grinders. Let me know if you want anything wink


BliarOut

72,863 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Pupp said:
Okay... original portafilter (off the Baby) now converted into a naked job after 20 mins with a holesaw and file etc. First surprise encountered (of many I suspect).

For some odd reason, and without any indication on the packaging or bumph for the new machine, Gaggia have changed the filter basket design from the traditional 'strainer' type to a 'pressurised' format that has just one tiny pin hole in the centre rather than the watering can arrangement we're all used to.

As my original Baby basket was showing signs of blockage, I just popped the new one into the converted naked portafilter, then got a demitasse full of foamy 'crema' with nothing else (save lots of steam) for my trouble. The new style baskets clearly need the spouted PF (and a plastic widget that fits in the spout) to convert the foam back to liquid coffee. It's espresso Jim but not as we know it... frown

I think this change (plus maybe increased pumping pressure to match) accounts for the apparent difference in performance of two outwardly similar machines.

So, an hour with a pin later, one unblocked traditional basket in the modded PF, and....ermm.... no crema at all (on the same grind)! Aghhh frown

A much finer grind later, *very* robust tamping, and we have traditional espresso again (although not quite the bouncy fluffy crema with inky sweet black velvet underneath yet, that I was hoping for).

Maybe time for a shiny new traditional basket (seems the pin method is not approved for basket maintenance)... may also need a burr set for the grinder! smile
So basically you've broken it with a holesaw? biggrin

Pupp

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12,930 posts

300 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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BliarOut said:
So basically you've broken it with a holesaw? biggrin
Only because I didn't have a lathe or milling machine readily to hand to break it with instead hehe

Pupp

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12,930 posts

300 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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cqueen said:
p.s. my company now stocks all gaggia espesso machines & Grinders. Let me know if you want anything wink
Ooooh... get behind me Satan evil