Immigrants awaiting deportation.
Discussion
Just watch BBC news ( this maybe wrong itself but) and the report was regarding outhouses used for immigrants and how some are homeless who want to be deported.
Can some of you who know why and how this is happening and why we still have thousands trying to sneak in?
I am at a loss to understand.
Can some of you who know why and how this is happening and why we still have thousands trying to sneak in?
I am at a loss to understand.
Basically immigrants living here legally accept or traffic illegal immigrants over and charge them extortionate amounts to live in a shed at the end of their garden. The illegal immigrants work - illegally of course - and pay the landlord and make them rich. The authorities don't do anything because that would be racist so large slum areas comprised of sheds and makeshift garages have grown up. Now, because there is so little work, the illegals can't get work so they can't pay their crimelords - I mean, landlords - and some have decided to f
k off back where they came from. In other words the sluggish economy is ironically doing the job of both the council and the police, who come down very hard if you're white and build an extension 6" too high but if you're from an ethnic minority you can do exactly as you like.
And isn't it great how the BBC advertise their own programmes as news items?
k off back where they came from. In other words the sluggish economy is ironically doing the job of both the council and the police, who come down very hard if you're white and build an extension 6" too high but if you're from an ethnic minority you can do exactly as you like.And isn't it great how the BBC advertise their own programmes as news items?
People are still trying to sneak in because
1) the UK is percieved to be an awesome palce full of opportunity
2) chances are the UK is probably better than most places when all is said and done
As above, some people may well have had enough but in general I imagine most illegals would rather stay than leave.
1) the UK is percieved to be an awesome palce full of opportunity
2) chances are the UK is probably better than most places when all is said and done
As above, some people may well have had enough but in general I imagine most illegals would rather stay than leave.
They come here because the black market jobs still exist and the black market jobs exist because the consumer wants to pay as little as possible for goods and services.
In my locality, the busiest (and best) Pakistani/Indian restaurant in town is staffed by illegals (its been raided twice and the last time over 20 people were arrested) yet its still as busy as ever (got to wait an hour+ for a table on a fri/sat night). Their prices are very reasonable.
Most of the car washes here illegally (ie without paying NI etc) employ eastern europeans and afghanis. A couple of the tyre fitting joints are staffed by Iraqis.
The local Spar is staffed by Indian students. They're here legally on student visas but are working illegally because they exceed the number of hours they're allowed to work. The shop sells the cheapest milk in town (less than any major supermarket).
And so on.
All these businesses are very busy and used by whites and ethnics alike. Everyone loves a bargain and illegal workers help us to get one.
In my locality, the busiest (and best) Pakistani/Indian restaurant in town is staffed by illegals (its been raided twice and the last time over 20 people were arrested) yet its still as busy as ever (got to wait an hour+ for a table on a fri/sat night). Their prices are very reasonable.
Most of the car washes here illegally (ie without paying NI etc) employ eastern europeans and afghanis. A couple of the tyre fitting joints are staffed by Iraqis.
The local Spar is staffed by Indian students. They're here legally on student visas but are working illegally because they exceed the number of hours they're allowed to work. The shop sells the cheapest milk in town (less than any major supermarket).
And so on.
All these businesses are very busy and used by whites and ethnics alike. Everyone loves a bargain and illegal workers help us to get one.
Victor McDade said:
They come here because the black market jobs still exist and the black market jobs exist because the consumer wants to pay as little as possible for goods and services.
In my locality, the busiest (and best) Pakistani/Indian restaurant in town is staffed by illegals (its been raided twice and the last time over 20 people were arrested) yet its still as busy as ever (got to wait an hour+ for a table on a fri/sat night). Their prices are very reasonable.
Most of the car washes here illegally (ie without paying NI etc) employ eastern europeans and afghanis. A couple of the tyre fitting joints are staffed by Iraqis.
The local Spar is staffed by Indian students. They're here legally on student visas but are working illegally because they exceed the number of hours they're allowed to work. The shop sells the cheapest milk in town (less than any major supermarket).
And so on.
All these businesses are very busy and used by whites and ethnics alike. Everyone loves a bargain and illegal workers help us to get one.
I wouldn't use any business that I knew to employ illegal immigrants. If you're prepared to do that then you might as well go the whole hog and shoplift all your stuff.In my locality, the busiest (and best) Pakistani/Indian restaurant in town is staffed by illegals (its been raided twice and the last time over 20 people were arrested) yet its still as busy as ever (got to wait an hour+ for a table on a fri/sat night). Their prices are very reasonable.
Most of the car washes here illegally (ie without paying NI etc) employ eastern europeans and afghanis. A couple of the tyre fitting joints are staffed by Iraqis.
The local Spar is staffed by Indian students. They're here legally on student visas but are working illegally because they exceed the number of hours they're allowed to work. The shop sells the cheapest milk in town (less than any major supermarket).
And so on.
All these businesses are very busy and used by whites and ethnics alike. Everyone loves a bargain and illegal workers help us to get one.
iphonedyou said:
Colonial said:
Yes. Because they are exactly the same thing 
Well, no. Shoplifting doesn't involve widespread physical abuse, people trafficking, prostitution et al.So I suppose you're right.
carmonk said:
Exactly. Nick some food from Tesco and you've deprived Tesco of a few quid. Buy your food from a shop that 'employs' illegal immigrants and you've supported human trafficking and slave labour.
Sorry if this comes across as rude, but are you really that "Simple" ??According to your Theory, there is no harm in Driving off the forecourt with out paying because if I did it would be supporting Slave Labour in the countries the produce the crude oil !
I would rather support my "local" shop and business and save a few pennies at the same time.
Shoplifting is against the law, would rather support a hard working "shopworker" who at least is working (even if it is below the minimum wage).
But I cannot understand our deportation laws, even when a illegals documents and country has been verified they are still allowed to appeal and drag it out.
Roboraver said:
carmonk said:
Exactly. Nick some food from Tesco and you've deprived Tesco of a few quid. Buy your food from a shop that 'employs' illegal immigrants and you've supported human trafficking and slave labour.
Sorry if this comes across as rude, but are you really that "Simple" ??According to your Theory, there is no harm in Driving off the forecourt with out paying because if I did it would be supporting Slave Labour in the countries the produce the crude oil !
If you want to know how illegal labour in the UK is linked to human trafficking, violence, criminal gangs and the deaths of hundreds of people a year then Google is your friend.
Roboraver said:
I would rather support my "local" shop and business and save a few pennies at the same time.
Shoplifting is against the law, would rather support a hard working "shopworker" who at least is working (even if it is below the minimum wage).
You can't possibly be this naive. Your hard working shop-worker is first of all one of the lucky ones. He's alive. He's also probably tied in to paying gang masters most of his paltry wages for the rest of his life and lives in a shed with a dozen other immigrants and no electric. Bravo for encouraging this situation so you can save a few pennies.Shoplifting is against the law, would rather support a hard working "shopworker" who at least is working (even if it is below the minimum wage).
carmonk said:
What on earth are you talking about? What slave labour in oil-producing countries? How does not paying for fuel result in slave labour?
If you think the Indians in your local Spar are being poorly treated go and see what happens to the ones working in the Middle East. He isn't saying not paying for fuel results in the slave trade, the exact opposite as I read it, and he's making the broader point that you more than likely support treatment far worse in the purchasing decisions you make.MartyPubes said:
carmonk said:
What on earth are you talking about? What slave labour in oil-producing countries? How does not paying for fuel result in slave labour?
If you think the Indians in your local Spar are being poorly treated go and see what happens to the ones working in the Middle East. He isn't saying not paying for fuel results in the slave trade, the exact opposite as I read it, and he's making the broader point that you more than likely support treatment far worse in the purchasing decisions you make."According to your Theory, there is no harm in Driving off the forecourt with out paying because if I did it would be supporting Slave Labour in the countries the produce the crude oil !"
So clearly he is talking about not paying for fuel being the cause of slave labour.
If you want to equate paying for petrol with supporting a criminal acts in the UK then go ahead but so far I don't see any connection.
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