911 GT1?
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lambo_xx

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2,199 posts

217 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Porsche 911 GT1? Anyone know anything about them?

I've been trying to find out about them as I think they look stunning and it's a car that nobody ever seems to speak about. I'm guessing seeing as there are only 25 then probably nobody has ever seen one let alone driven one. I was just wondering are there any in the UK? Does anyone know what they would be worth?

Any help appreciated! Thanks smile

Here is a picture if you aren't quite sure what i'm on about


iva cosworth

44,044 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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If this counts ,saw them at Le Mans in 90s and one example in Stuttgart museum.cool

Conian

8,030 posts

221 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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all i really know is...... i want one :0

carguy88

303 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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s m

24,058 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Autocar mag did a full road test on one back in June 97 - good read if you like all the facts and figures like me

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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It's really hard to find out much about the roadcars.

They made two of the original 993 variants. Porsche presumerably has one of them, this one?


And the other is in a garage in Bahrain amongst the likes of the McLaren F1, F40, F50, CLK-GTR, Veyron and others.

Here's a thread with pictures, it's a truly incredible collection.
http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/garage-forum/49678...

The one you posted, they supposedly made 25 of, but I've seen mention of both 19 and 21 built. There's one for sale in Belgium, one in Japan and one in Singpore allegedly but as with all exotic car sites (Anamera, Jameslist, etc) you never know whether the sellers are real or fake. The majority are silver, a few are white and there are definitely a black one and a red one, oh and a light yellow one in Cannes/Monaco.


Finally they made 1 single road version of the 1998 Le Mans winner, truly one of the most stunning cars ever made (and pretty much my favourite race car as well)

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

236 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Bloody hell, thats a well kept secret - I owned a 911 for four years and frequented the Porsche forums and even I didn't know about those!

Stunning!


Penfolds

927 posts

197 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I found a photo of one I saw at Goodwood FOS in 2004.



Good photo for an 11 year old wink

will_

6,035 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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There were at least two in the UK - a white one which sold through Talacrest which was at the Goodwood Festival of Speed 2004 (and is pictures above - it has the 993 lights), and a bronzy one (also pictured above) which was sold by Gregor Fisken and I think is now in the States. I don't think there are any in the UK at the moment, although there is a converted race-car which is road registered and was at Salon Prive a couple of years ago.

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Bloody hell, thats a well kept secret - I owned a 911 for four years and frequented the Porsche forums and even I didn't know about those!

Stunning!
Surprising and not surprising in equal measure.

The 911 GT1 is the last car to win LM24 outright for Porsche, so you'd expect it to be talked about but then over the three generations it wasn't very successful at all.

It was introduced for 96 Le Mans and was on it's way to winning when relability failed it and it finished second. It won the last three races of the BPR GT series against the original McLaren F1 GTR/F40 GTE and so on and everyone kicked up a fuss because it was basically a racing car first and not a road car, they'd bent the rules for homologation.

The following year the FIA took over the series, screwed over the teams with turbo engines (Porsche especially), Mercedes went even further bending the homologation rules with the CLK-GTR and McLaren redesigned the F1 GTR to longtail spec so the Porsche was left fight for podiums at best. Again they were competitive at Le Mans but didn't win overall with the 97 spec car. Certainly the customer teams who bought the 96 version weren't best pleased with the lack of competitiveness, and neither were the bosses at Porsche.

They redesigned it to 98 spec the following year but Mercedes won all 10 FIA GT races with the CLK-LM and Porsche were humiliated. They won Le Mans that year with a 1-2 but pretty much only by virtue of being reliable. The CLK-LM and Toyota GT-One were much quicker over a lap but failed during the 24 hours.

So really, for three generations of a car, millions of pounds of investment and all the effort of the teams and drivers, it was a spectacular failure.

Shame though, because it's one of my all time favourite cars.

s m

24,058 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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0-100 in 7.2
Weight 1175kg
544bhp @7000rpm
442lb ft @4250rpm

Noise at 70mph 88dB smile

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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This is the one in Porsche museum





There is also a GT1 98 in LeMans livery.

1point7bar

1,305 posts

168 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Le Mans '96

Edited by 1point7bar on Tuesday 28th February 20:36

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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s m said:
0-100 in 7.2
Weight 1175kg
544bhp @7000rpm
442lb ft @4250rpm

Noise at 70mph 88dB smile
Amazing that the new Ferrari road car for the family will have very similar 0-100mph.

Regardless of it's relative lack of race wins
1. It's much better looking than the Merc
2. The F1 came from nowhere and blew everyone away
3. F40 LM and 512 LM epic cars were well beaten ad clearly a different era.

Value of these cars must be £700k ++ or whatever the owner asks for them so so rare
Prefer the 993 GT1 look over the 996 GT1.


Good shout on this usually it's F1 veyron lambo etc

s m

24,058 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Welshbeef said:
s m said:
0-100 in 7.2
Weight 1175kg
544bhp @7000rpm
442lb ft @4250rpm

Noise at 70mph 88dB smile
Amazing that the new Ferrari road car for the family will have very similar 0-100mph.

Regardless of it's relative lack of race wins
1. It's much better looking than the Merc
2. The F1 came from nowhere and blew everyone away
3. F40 LM and 512 LM epic cars were well beaten ad clearly a different era.

Value of these cars must be £700k ++ or whatever the owner asks for them so so rare
Prefer the 993 GT1 look over the 996 GT1.


Good shout on this usually it's F1 veyron lambo etc
Yes, a GT2RS is faster now

Price of the GT1 according to road test was £457,075

F1GTRUeno

6,512 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I think the last one that sold was around a million.

Last one I saw for sale that actually had a number and not 'P.O.R' or 'call for details' was £1.2 million.

h4muf

2,070 posts

227 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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Slightly O/T But seen a 9FF Today!

KB_S1

5,967 posts

249 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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I saw a white one at the FOS but can't remember when.
It may have been 2004 as others have said.

I just remember it looked impossibly low.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

183 months

Tuesday 28th February 2012
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h4muf said:
Slightly O/T But seen a 9FF Today!
I thought WTF is that ? so i googled smile

lambo_xx

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2,199 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Thanks everyone for the help so far! Really like these things so keep the info coming!

It's strange that so few people know about them. I'm guessing they are just bought by collectors then as the only pictures I have sen of them being driven is of that yellow one in Monaco! Does anyone know if people actually use them regularly?

It would be interesting to see what hey are worth, I would have guessed £500k+ but I wouldn't be surprised if they did sell fof £1 Million+

Once agin thanks for the help so please keep the info coming! smile