0-60 - where's the limit?
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I noticed whilst browsing Car yesterday that the Nissan GTR does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds.
2.8!!
I remember when 5 seconds was ultra supercar fast, that almost halves it!
Now given that no production road car will ever hit sixty in 0.1 second, where's the final fastest 0-60 going to end up do we think?
2.8!!
I remember when 5 seconds was ultra supercar fast, that almost halves it!
Now given that no production road car will ever hit sixty in 0.1 second, where's the final fastest 0-60 going to end up do we think?
Top fuel dragsters - 0-60 in 0.2 seconds apparently
http://www.universalauto.com/worldsfastestcars/top...
http://www.universalauto.com/worldsfastestcars/top...
Ari said:
I noticed whilst browsing Car yesterday that the Nissan GTR does 0-60 in 2.8 seconds.
2.8!!
I remember when 5 seconds was ultra supercar fast, that almost halves it!
Now given that no production road car will ever hit sixty in 0.1 second, where's the final fastest 0-60 going to end up do we think?
Any car will, when its rear ended by a tired European trucker who is watching a porn video on his laptop.2.8!!
I remember when 5 seconds was ultra supercar fast, that almost halves it!
Now given that no production road car will ever hit sixty in 0.1 second, where's the final fastest 0-60 going to end up do we think?
But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
Buggles said:
Surely the GTR must be in with a shout?
I can't actually think of a quicker 4 seater off the top of my head.
Its AWD though mate. My interest is more along the lines of how much power are manufacturers willing to put just through the rear wheels of a saloon car before it is deemed to mental to handle. I can't actually think of a quicker 4 seater off the top of my head.
GravelBen said:
IIRC some of the more extreme Pikes Peak cars were cracking the 2 second mark, but those are not really road cars!
Ford RS200 Evolution managed 0-60 in a smidge over 2 seconds over 25 years ago. Though I expect those might have been breathed-on more than a little. But they were a road car, albeit stretching the definition quite a lot.jimxms said:
Its AWD though mate. My interest is more along the lines of how much power are manufacturers willing to put just through the rear wheels of a saloon car before it is deemed to mental to handle.
I'd be interested to know the FWD limit - seeing as that's where a lot of manufacturers seem to be pushing now.RegMolehusband said:
Top fuel dragsters - 0-60 in 0.2 seconds apparently
http://www.universalauto.com/worldsfastestcars/top...
Considering the best will crack 300 in a 1/4 mile in 3-4 seconds I can well believe it. But then have you seen the engines on those things? The super charger is the same size, if not bigger than the block and the fuel pump is a like a firemans hose. Then it all needs stripping afterwards.http://www.universalauto.com/worldsfastestcars/top...
I guess the limit on acceleration would be just what the human body could sustain without keeling over.
Mattt said:
jimxms said:
Its AWD though mate. My interest is more along the lines of how much power are manufacturers willing to put just through the rear wheels of a saloon car before it is deemed to mental to handle.
I'd be interested to know the FWD limit - seeing as that's where a lot of manufacturers seem to be pushing now.J4CKO said:
Any car will, when its rear ended by a tired European trucker who is watching a porn video on his laptop.
But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
I actually think the HEAVINESS of the GTR gives it more traction to take off. Hence why Porsches cant match the 2.8sec ATM. For these 0-60 times I'd take Traction, and power over lightness any day. Furthermore tires nowadays are already near there limits of cohesion. BTW this takes into account that the production car has modcons such as SatNav/air con/ NCAP 4-5 sart rating, etc. Thus I've not included the race cars such as the Ariel Atom/Caparoo T1.But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
On a side note. It not as simple to just say. Add more power. Tuned R32/R33/R34s with 650bhp can only get 3.0 secs. For testers to get optimum times. Temperature of tyres and weather along with conditions take a precedence into achieving such feats.
Moobs said:
J4CKO said:
Any car will, when its rear ended by a tired European trucker who is watching a porn video on his laptop.
But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
I actually think the HEAVINESS of the GTR gives it more traction to take off. Hence why Porsches cant match the 2.8sec ATM. For these 0-60 times I'd take Traction, and power over lightness any day. Furthermore tires nowadays are already near there limits of cohesion. BTW this takes into account that the production car has modcons such as SatNav/air con/ NCAP 4-5 sart rating, etc. Thus I've not included the race cars such as the Ariel Atom/Caparoo T1.But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
Moobs said:
J4CKO said:
Any car will, when its rear ended by a tired European trucker who is watching a porn video on his laptop.
But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
I actually think the HEAVINESS of the GTR gives it more traction to take off. Hence why Porsches cant match the 2.8sec ATM. For these 0-60 times I'd take Traction, and power over lightness any day. Furthermore tires nowadays are already near there limits of cohesion. BTW this takes into account that the production car has modcons such as SatNav/air con/ NCAP 4-5 sart rating, etc. Thus I've not included the race cars such as the Ariel Atom/Caparoo T1.But for actual cars, the GTR is amazing, not much gets close to that headline time, 911 Turbo's but to dip below three seconds, most of the time it seems to require four wheel drive, I suspect just under two is do-able but would enforce quite a few compromises for what is a fairly poinless ability, dont think many GTR owners feel 2.8 seconds is a bit sluggish, to lop a second off would involve massive effort, more power, less weight, stickier tyres, beefed up drivetrain, the dragsters do itbut doing it (more than once) whilst still being an acceptable road car is a tall order.
On a side note. It not as simple to just say. Add more power. Tuned R32/R33/R34s with 650bhp can only get 3.0 secs. For testers to get optimum times. Temperature of tyres and weather along with conditions take a precedence into achieving such feats.
I wonder how accurate the models in Forza are whatever are for testing combinations, the benchmark thing always seems to stack up well with my expectations of how a car with X power would fare but at this level it would probably start getting innacurate.
jimxms said:
Anyone happen to know what the quickest 0-60 on a RWD 4 seater factory spec road car is?
AWD, one/two seats, no creature comforts and a lightweight chassis makes it all to easy to achieve a blistering 0-60 imo.
Got to be the 991 Carrera S? Independently tested at 3.5s to 60mph.AWD, one/two seats, no creature comforts and a lightweight chassis makes it all to easy to achieve a blistering 0-60 imo.
jimxms said:
Anyone happen to know what the quickest 0-60 on a RWD 4 seater factory spec road car is?
AWD, one/two seats, no creature comforts and a lightweight chassis makes it all to easy to achieve a blistering 0-60 imo.
911 GTS? 4.4sAWD, one/two seats, no creature comforts and a lightweight chassis makes it all to easy to achieve a blistering 0-60 imo.
eta - I see that the 991 is quicker, damn it.
Edited by Amateurish on Wednesday 29th February 09:36
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