Skilled migrants to lose right to settle in UK
Skilled migrants to lose right to settle in UK
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vonuber

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17,868 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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I've only seen this reported in the Granuiard so far:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/feb/29/skilled-m...

But denying the right to settle for those earning under £35k? The numbers quoted seem really small also; why not deal with real issues, like the thousands of illegal immigrants in those slums?

What do the Directors of PH think about this, having your skilled staff booted out - although there is mention of the business transfer loophole - if so, is this just grandstanding to the Mail set?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X3vwPLCB1c

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Does seem nutty.

Why add to the complication of the system when the bare basics of immigration controls are not even being met? Granted those earning under £534k may be ecomonically less attractive than higher earners, but surely they're more welcome and useful than the buggers that sneak in, intent on joining the black market or scamming our benefits system?

s1962a

7,696 posts

193 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.

Haggleburyfinius

6,703 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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s1962a said:
I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.
It's the same here in Birmingham.

Given the authority, I reckon I could have a few thousand rounded up by the end of the day!

s1962a

7,696 posts

193 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Haggleburyfinius said:
s1962a said:
I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.
It's the same here in Birmingham.

Given the authority, I reckon I could have a few thousand rounded up by the end of the day!
If you were being cynical, you could suggest that they don't do this for fear of upsetting trade. I mean, if all these restaurants and fast food places closed down because they couldn't hire anyone that wanted to work for £2 an hour, there might be riots on the streets!

jogon

2,971 posts

189 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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s1962a said:
I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.
just work late one evening in the office and have a chat with the cleaners, if any can understand you..

illegals are rife in every low skilled job available.

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Haggleburyfinius said:
Given the authority, I reckon I could have a few thousand rounded up by the end of the day!
If you get the authority, I'll provide the shipping containers. hehe

Ganglandboss

8,563 posts

234 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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s1962a said:
I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.
There's a curry house in Manchester that I often hear people say is the best in Manchester (it isn't IMO). It started in Bradford, Yorkshire and they now also have restaurants in Birmingham, Leeds (2), Middlesbrough, Newcastle, Sheffield, York and a second one in Bradford.

The Manchester Evening News reported a raid when 21 people (half the staff)were nicked. This was done simultaneously with a raid on one of the restaurants in Leeds.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s...

Less than 9 months later, more arrests were made on the same chain in Middlesbrough, Leeds and Rotherham.

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/20...

JagLover

46,842 posts

266 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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'Skilled' migrants has often meant in practice care home workers and restaurant employees and the like. Once they gain the right to settle they can also bring over dependents, so in aggregate can result in a significant increase in net migration and increased burden on the public purse for the sake of a minimal boost to the economy, if any.

Remember that net migration is currently running at 250K a year and something drastic needs to be done to reduce this. Unless of course providing housing and public services to such an increase is not an issue?

Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 29th February 13:47

vonuber

Original Poster:

17,868 posts

196 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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JagLover said:
Remember that net migration is currently running at 250K a year and something drastic needs to be done to reduce this. Unless of course providing housing and public services to such an increase is not an issue?

Edited by JagLover on Wednesday 29th February 13:47
Two child policy. Job jobbed.

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

188 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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s1962a said:
I believe it would be pretty easy for the authorities to track down and deport illegal immigrants in this country. You only have to go to Indian restaurants or other fast food type places and you'll most likely find some working there. Why this doesn't happen is beyond me.

I am talking about the scummy parts of London here. I suspect most of the PH 'directors' wouldn't even have been to any of these areas.
The illegals burn their passports and documents so it can't be proved who they are and where to send them back to. If they do manage to work out who they are most of the countries they are from don't want them back and for example India currently takes 6 months to generate an emergency travel document for a potenital deportee.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Digga said:
Haggleburyfinius said:
Given the authority, I reckon I could have a few thousand rounded up by the end of the day!
If you get the authority, I'll provide the shipping containers. hehe
not convinced

How about deporting the chavs?

bp1

813 posts

239 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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Migrants should know the rules before they go to whatever country they want to work in. Similar thing happened to me in the states after 9/11, the wife was laid off, lost her H1B and had to find similar employment or leave the country in 30 days. We left. We knew those were the rules before we went, it was a pain, but brown stuff does hit the fan sometimes, you can't legislate for everything.

Digga

48,563 posts

314 months

Wednesday 29th February 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Digga said:
Haggleburyfinius said:
Given the authority, I reckon I could have a few thousand rounded up by the end of the day!
If you get the authority, I'll provide the shipping containers. hehe
not convinced

How about deporting the chavs?
Happy with that, but don't think my shipping container budget is sufficiently well funded.