Bernie talking of scrapping the Austrlian GP
Bernie talking of scrapping the Austrlian GP
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2,799 posts

188 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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http://planetf1.com/driver/18227/7556771/Bernie-We...

Had a quick skim read of the article and it seems to be that Bernie is trying to push them towards having the Austrlian GP as a night race with the track owners refusing and the local government complaining because of the huge hosting fees.

jbudgie

10,026 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Bernie is a wker.

Crafty_

14,067 posts

229 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Just Bernie being Bernie, gets F1 in the headlines - no such thing as bad publicity remember..

EDLT

15,421 posts

235 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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If Bernie says he wants to scrap the race then it usually means he doesn't want to scrap the race.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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EDLT said:
If Bernie says he wants to scrap the race then it usually means he wants to make more out of that race.
EFA smile

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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This has been going on for years.

vtgts300kw

640 posts

206 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Melbourne themselves have been talking about canceling the race for a few years due to costs.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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PW said:
Is there a race Bernie hasn't talked of scrapping in the last 2 seasons?
Yes, all the borring ones that pay him huge amounts of money each year . . .

smack

9,773 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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Mermaid said:
EDLT said:
If Bernie says he wants to scrap the race then it usually means he wants to make more out of that race.
EFA smile
dailymail said:
This year's Australian Grand Prix is set to cost the Melbourne taxpayer in excess of $50million - a fee which has reportedly rocketed from $1.7m when the city first took over the hosting rights from Adelaide in 1996.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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PW said:
scratchchin I suppose he does seem desperate not to cancel Bahrain under any circumstances...
If Bernie cancels a GP, he pays. if someone else does, they pay. That's why Bahrain is on until everyone else refuses to go and the circuit is on fire.

mollytherocker

14,458 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st March 2012
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How can I use the 'Bernie principle' in my job?

The guy is the fking master. How does he do it?

He says a few words and magic happens. How does that work?

MTR

Y8RSP

226 posts

228 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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mollytherocker said:
How can I use the 'Bernie principle' in my job?

The guy is the fking master. How does he do it?

He says a few words and magic happens. How does that work?

MTR
Money! (and the fact that he owns EVERYTHING - he speaks, magic happens)

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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I've long since learned to ignore absolutely anything uttered by BE.

I'm tired of the whole charade to be honest and will be seeking motor racing interest in areas other than F1 from now on.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 2nd March 10:00

P-Jay

11,400 posts

220 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Trying to think of a race, Bahrain aside that Bernie hasn't hinted at scrapping in the last 5 years or so...


Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

251 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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One day someone will say "Take your exorbitant hosting fee and shove it, Ecclestone." And then hopefully someone else will follow and then someone else etc.

Once again, its that odious little man holding a whole country to ransom in order that his duck-face daughter can have a more expensive house. If one existed. Which it doesnt.

The World is Not Enough.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Reardy Mister said:
One day someone will say "Take your exorbitant hosting fee and shove it, Ecclestone." And then hopefully someone else will follow and then someone else etc.

Once again, its that odious little man holding a whole country to ransom in order that his duck-face daughter can have a more expensive house. If one existed. Which it doesnt.

The World is Not Enough.
Well said. But I suppose he does a lot of good for the sport too wink

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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You reckon?

Bernie last did some good for F1 around 1985.

rpguk

4,515 posts

313 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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smack said:
dailymail said:
This year's Australian Grand Prix is set to cost the Melbourne taxpayer in excess of $50million - a fee which has reportedly rocketed from $1.7m when the city first took over the hosting rights from Adelaide in 1996.
eek

I can see the benefit at $1.7m. But $50m is a huge wedge of tax payers cash to request. Would a race really bring in that much? Works out as a subsidy of $625 per spectator a large chunk of whom would be resident in the city anyway.

Obviously there's going to be the teams themselves who spend large amounts of money but I can see that being very difficult to justify at budget time.

I think (hope?) this F1/Premiership bubble will burst sometime soon. Costs are going up exponentially but the quality of sport doesn't follow.

28jaguar

197 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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zac510 said:
This has been going on for years.
Just a lazy 17 years!

vtgts300kw said:
Melbourne themselves have been talking about canceling the race for a few years due to costs.
A few years? 17 and counting.

rpguk said:
I can see the benefit at $1.7m. But $50m is a huge wedge of tax payers cash to request. Would a race really bring in that much? Works out as a subsidy of $625 per spectator a large chunk of whom would be resident in the city anyway.
It's not $50mil being paid to Bernie, just to be clear. It's the fee to Bernie, paying for the freight to get here, setting up the circuit, etc. That contributes to the cost.

Just the same boring rubbish that goes on every year. Listening to a lot of talkback radio, you just get the impression that criticism is more due to the fact the mainstream media broadcasters here don't like motorsport. They always focus on the $50mil, slanted in such a way to suggest the race loses $50mil, instead of just about $10 mil, which is roughly how much the event directly loses. $10mil cost for a F1 GP is a bargain, especially for the role the GP plays.

The media here never bang on about tax-payer funds, anywhere near to the same degree, when it is used for lesser events like the Presidents Cup or for Tiger Woods to play in the Australian Masters, or even, in many contexts, the Aus Open and the Cycling Road Race World Championship. The GP is the single biggest sporting event here, the only reason why the Aus Open is bigger is that it goes for two weeks. Also, the Aus Open would be far more expensive than what it is if Grand Slams weren't closed off to other countries that don't host a Grand Slam, who I'm sure, would love to host one.

For the media here, the GP is also a huge nuisance that forces attention away from the start of the Australian Football season. What is not recognised, is that the current conservative government in Victoria, has made it known they're looking to extend the contract to host the race after 2015. What is not recognised, is that the race has lasted many terms of government, from both sides of the chamber! With the possible expection of Jeff Kennett, I've not had the slightest impression from any Premier here, while the race has been held, that they even like F1/motorsport. Why would the race have lasted for so long if there's no benefit? Surely, after all this time, the local government here would know the benefit of not/hosting the race? They all can't be wrong?

The media and wider public, do resent the race being held here as if it's a waste of money. They just don't/can't acknowledge the presence the GP gives Melbourne, or any city/country, to the wider world. A failure to recognise, the F1 World Championship, with the probable exception of the English Premier League, as the biggest, regular season, annual sporting comp, on the entire planet.


MMC Andy

527 posts

250 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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^^^ Good informative post. More useful/balanced than the Bernie is a w***** type posts.