Best First Car for a Petrol Head?
Best First Car for a Petrol Head?
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DriverNo1

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178 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Hi guys.

Just looking for some ideas for a first car. Like the title says, I am a bit of a car nut but, after getting insurance quotes on what I would consider small but fun cars, I keep coming back disappointed with prices of £5000 plus for cars that cost less than £2000 to buy eg a Suzuki Ignis Sport etc.

So, my question is this: what car would you recommend to a 17 year old petrol head who wants something fun to drive but not stupidly expensive to insure? My total budget is around £5000. It doesn't have to have 4 seats, but does have to be a petrol with a manual gearbox and, if possible, rear wheel drive.

Any ideas cause I'm stumped?

Bruc3

71 posts

182 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Unfortunatly if your going to do it properly and build up your own NCB, I cant see you getting insured on anyhting overly exciting!

Just get a smart run around, something cheap to insure and build up your NCB!

Raize

1,476 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Reliant Scimitar SS1 1.3 or 1.6.

Perfect first car for a petrolhead. But it's at the point where you go and find out what a Reliant Scimitar SS1 is that you discover whether you are really a petrolhead or just looking to impress your mates.

tim2100

6,288 posts

287 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Westfield.

pingu393

11,071 posts

235 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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I was going to suggest old shape Mini, but you want RWD, so some sort of BMW, perhaps.

At 17, insurance will be your problem.

I'd get something that can be "optimised" without the need to inform the insurance of "modifications". A properly sorted standard car is often better than a souped-up one wink (and no insurance implications smile)

GHW

1,294 posts

251 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Classic mini - 2k on the car, 2k on insurance, another 1k in the bank for parts and tools smile

They're an absolute hoot to drive - even with only 50hp - and you'll quickly learn a LOT about how cars work!

chrisispringles

893 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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The only thing I can think of that will fulfill all of your criteria and be insurable for you is an old 1.3l Morris Marina. That being said, the insurance should be sensible and skinny tires and rwd should make it a bit of fun.

Oh and DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FRONT YOUR INSURANCE! It may seem cheaper now, but you will not build up any NCB and if your provider finds out they will cancel the policy leaving you with a nasty black mark on your record that will probably inflate your premiums for life.

DriverNo1

Original Poster:

178 posts

184 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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pingu393 said:
I was going to suggest old shape Mini, but you want RWD, so some sort of BMW, perhaps.

At 17, insurance will be your problem.

I'd get something that can be "optimised" without the need to inform the insurance of "modifications". A properly sorted standard car is often better than a souped-up one wink (and no insurance implications smile)
I was actually thinking of an old mini. The car doesn't HAVE to be RWD, so it's definitely an option. Are they eligible for classic car insurance? I would think so, but I'm not sure.

AlexiusG55

656 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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chrisispringles said:
The only thing I can think of that will fulfill all of your criteria and be insurable for you is an old 1.3l Morris Marina. That being said, the insurance should be sensible and skinny tires and rwd should make it a bit of fun.

Oh and DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FRONT YOUR INSURANCE! It may seem cheaper now, but you will not build up any NCB and if your provider finds out they will cancel the policy leaving you with a nasty black mark on your record that will probably inflate your premiums for life.
Morris Minor surely? It's slow, but low-speed fun is still fun...

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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AlexiusG55 said:
Morris Minor surely? It's slow, but low-speed fun is still fun...
Cue the video. smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooBJ2Z2sZvo

carmonk

7,910 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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The way to do it: Get the cheapest reliable car you can, in the lowest insurance band possible. Build up your NCB, put the money you would otherwise have spent on insurance and petrol into a savings account, then a few years down the line buy a decent car and get a good insurance discount.

The way not to do it: Buy the most powerful car you can possibly afford, spunk thousands on insurance, crash it into a wall, spend even more on insurance and end up with a succession of stty cars until you retire.

KP

190 posts

231 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Peugeot 106 GTi (if you can find a nice standard one!)

KP

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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I am surprised no one has mentioned the MX5? Cheap insurance, cheap to buy, cheap to run smile

A few people on here have them as first cars - look in the readers rides section smile

Raize

1,476 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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BorkFactor said:
I am surprised no one has mentioned the MX5? Cheap insurance
No no no no no no NO. Try a 17-year-old-MX-5 quote yourself if you think otherwise.

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Raize said:
No no no no no no NO. Try a 17-year-old-MX-5 quote yourself if you think otherwise.
Can't be that bad? I am 19 and an MX5 is about as cheap as it gets - circa £600!

Raize

1,476 posts

209 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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BorkFactor said:
Can't be that bad? I am 19 and an MX5 is about as cheap as it gets - circa £600!
WHOWITHWHOWITHWHOWITH"!"!!!!

Fakeedit: I am very interested in that.

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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Raize said:
WHOWITHWHOWITHWHOWITH"!"!!!!
19, male, licence since I was 17, 1 years NCD, both parents on the policy, fully comp, in my name, Admiral, 10k per year mileage.

smile

chrisispringles

893 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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BorkFactor said:
Can't be that bad? I am 19 and an MX5 is about as cheap as it gets - circa £600!
At 18, having had my licence for 6 months and no more driving experience since, I could not get it below £3k for an early 1.6. If I'd only just got my licence it would be around £4k. Both quotes with parents on the policy living in rural Scotland.

OP, forget about anything sporty for a couple of years, run something small and entertaining and save up for a couple of years so you can afford something a little more fruity then.

BorkFactor

7,278 posts

188 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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chrisispringles said:
At 18, having had my licence for 6 months and no more driving experience since, I could not get it below £3k for an early 1.6. If I'd only just got my licence it would be around £4k. Both quotes with parents on the policy living in rural Scotland.
Now that is strange, I live in the Scottish Highlands confused

chrisispringles

893 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd March 2012
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It'll be because you have some no claims and have had you're licence for two years. If I'd got my licence 6 days ago instead of 6 months then the quotes were around 30% higher, so that 2 years will make a massive difference.