When will Modifying become Fraud?
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Sorry if this has been covered before. Just been reading a report on a BMW 520d modified by AC Schnitzer. The standard car as we know has a very low CO2 rating and therefore benefits from low road tax and low company car tax, once it has been under the hands of Herr Schnitzer the BHP and torque undoubtably rise along with the CO2 rating yet the official CO2 rating stays the same. Is this not fraud and how long before it will be part of the MOT test?
As someone who prefers a big polluting petrol yet does few miles per annum in it this pisses me off a touch.
As someone who prefers a big polluting petrol yet does few miles per annum in it this pisses me off a touch.
The CO2 rating can change a couple of steps just by fitting bigger wheels.
When it looked like there was going to a £25 congestion charge for high CO2 cars, MB had a Merc S Class spec with 16" wheels that was just under the limit. Then buyers added the bigger wheels as a dealer fit accessory so the CO2 rating remained unchanged.
When it looked like there was going to a £25 congestion charge for high CO2 cars, MB had a Merc S Class spec with 16" wheels that was just under the limit. Then buyers added the bigger wheels as a dealer fit accessory so the CO2 rating remained unchanged.
crostonian said:
Sorry if this has been covered before. Just been reading a report on a BMW 520d modified by AC Schnitzer. The standard car as we know has a very low CO2 rating and therefore benefits from low road tax and low company car tax, once it has been under the hands of Herr Schnitzer the BHP and torque undoubtably rise along with the CO2 rating yet the official CO2 rating stays the same. Is this not fraud and how long before it will be part of the MOT test?
As someone who prefers a big polluting petrol yet does few miles per annum in it this pisses me off a touch.
The logical end of that would be taxing based on emissions at the MOT. That'll never happen.As someone who prefers a big polluting petrol yet does few miles per annum in it this pisses me off a touch.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/Search-Results...
Was the thing you were reading I think.
EGR valves on Vauxhalls are a good one for this.
The purpose of the valve is to help reduce emissions by recirculating the exhaust gases.
Official Vauxhall fix for when they go wrong into replace with a blanking unit and trick the ecu.
I doubt the co2 changes enough to move the engine up a tax band but even so.....
The purpose of the valve is to help reduce emissions by recirculating the exhaust gases.
Official Vauxhall fix for when they go wrong into replace with a blanking unit and trick the ecu.
I doubt the co2 changes enough to move the engine up a tax band but even so.....
davepoth said:
The logical end of that would be taxing based on emissions at the MOT. That'll never happen.
If it was measured any other way than the official tests it would be way higher, so the tax bands would have to change.You can tell what the CO2 rating really is as it's directly related to fuel consumption - indeed when the official fuel consumption testing was first started, they didn't measure MPG at all, it was calculated from CO2 emissions.
Its a total joke, my car standard: Celica VVTL-i 190 has official CO2 output of 200 g/km
Now I have added a rotex supercharger to the mix its going to be twice that. But I still I pay the same rate road tax.
However two people in my street have bought hybrids, so the natural balance is restored LOL...
And they will never be able to test cars come MOT time as its such a complicated stupid test... The best bit is the test has a few idle sections, which means hybrids and stop start eco cars score lower co2 emissions, but in a real world motorway run they are no better than a non eco car which pays more road / company car tax.
Now I have added a rotex supercharger to the mix its going to be twice that. But I still I pay the same rate road tax.
However two people in my street have bought hybrids, so the natural balance is restored LOL...
And they will never be able to test cars come MOT time as its such a complicated stupid test... The best bit is the test has a few idle sections, which means hybrids and stop start eco cars score lower co2 emissions, but in a real world motorway run they are no better than a non eco car which pays more road / company car tax.
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