Come on PH, get your hands on this cracked article.
Come on PH, get your hands on this cracked article.
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Wafflesmk2

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1,347 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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http://www.cracked.com/article_19704_6-car-myths-t...

I can hear keyboards all across PH exploding in a rage as i speak.

jagnet

4,373 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Wafflesmk2 said:
I can hear keyboards all across PH exploding in a rage as i speak.
I can't see anything controversial in that article - seems like sensible advice to me.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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jagnet said:
I can't see anything controversial in that article - seems like sensible advice to me.
yes

James_N

3,283 posts

257 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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article said:
Today, however, everything is controlled by your car's computer and can't actually be changed at all without buying a new chip. While it's probably prudent to have a mechanic check your car every 50,000 miles or so to gauge the state of your spark plugs, belts and fluids, and to make sure that raccoons aren't nesting in your turbo booster, your engine's computer can handle the month-to-month: It checks everything millions of times per second anyway, making fine adjustments and tweaks automatically for best performance.
Er....Really?!

Things like spark plugs, oil, filter etc still need to be changed!! 50k without a service?!!

RB Will

10,667 posts

263 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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I know a woman who has not had her car serviced in 9 years! Still works ok

jagnet

4,373 posts

225 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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James_N said:
Things like spark plugs, oil, filter etc still need to be changed!! 50k without a service?!!
The article isn't suggesting 50k without a service. It's already mentioned oil changes at 7.5k to 15k. 50k for spark plugs, auxiliary belts, transmission fluids, coolant etc isn't at all unreasonable these days imho.

Gone is the need for frequent changing of points and checking ignition timing. Modern OAT coolant lasts 5 years + rather than the two years of traditional glycol coolants. 50k for gearbox fluid could even be considered OTT when many are theoretically "sealed for life".

The one fluid that they've missed however is brake fluid, which should still be changed every 2 to 3 years, yet how often does that actually happen versus how many drivers experience braking issues as a result?

Wafflesmk2

Original Poster:

1,347 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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RB Will said:
I know a woman who has not had her car serviced in 9 years! Still works ok
Remapped 330d? laugh

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

278 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Wafflesmk2 said:
Remapped 330d? laugh
Stop it.

Toaster Pilot

14,839 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Thing is, it's an American article, and I seriously doubt people religiously service their cars every 10,000 miles (or whatever) over there, given that people drive much longer distances regularly than we do.

A car with a 10k service interval would need servicing pretty damn often.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

269 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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I don't understand why you guys are surprised by this. I guess it's because so many of the "PH experts" love to criticise modern electronics and prefer to hark back to the bad old days of oil leaks, sludged engines and misfiring electrics.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Yea, pretty much everything from '96 onwards has adaptations and self tuning.

It's programmed in the factory with what you want it to do, and it'll keep on calculating how to do it, sorting out for clogged filters etc.

Watchman

6,391 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Spark plugs haven't needed changing regularly for nigh-on 3 decades. They shouldbe able to manage 50K miles eith ease.

Synthetic oils don't break down as often as mineral oils in older engines but they do carry metallic and combustion particulates around the engine. Replacing the oil removes these particulates from the engine. There are probably fewer metallic particulates in an older engine but a higher ratio of combustion particulates which can get burnt onto the walls of the oilways in particularly hot locations (like the head). Changing the oil regularly is probably the one sensible thing everyone ought to do.

The higher octane bit makes me laugh - so many PHers will swear they get better economy on 98 than on 95 when the exact opposite MUST be true (owing to the reduced energy content of 98 over 95 by volume). And don't get me started on the "my car won't run on 95" bullst.

Toaster Pilot

14,839 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Strangely re spark plugs Kia recommend they are changed every two years or 20k miles in my toastmaster

Wafflesmk2

Original Poster:

1,347 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Stop it.
getmecoat

TheEnd

15,370 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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http://www.denso.co.id/splug1.html

From Denso, platinum plugs have a 100k km lifespan, and Iridium ones have 150k kms.

The usual backyard tinkerer will be swapping them around far more often then is needed.

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

238 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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X-type 3.0 is 7 year/70k change for plugs smile

Bloody good job too cos it's a pain!

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

245 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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TheHeretic said:
jagnet said:
I can't see anything controversial in that article - seems like sensible advice to me.
yes
uuhuh. Contrary to popular belief petrol and diesel aren't full of sand and twigs.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

190 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Toaster Pilot said:
Thing is, it's an American article, and I seriously doubt people religiously service their cars every 10,000 miles (or whatever) over there, given that people drive much longer distances regularly than we do.

A car with a 10k service interval would need servicing pretty damn often.
They get quiet excitable about oil changes and do them often. There were (when I was there) drive through oil change places in towns, just just pull in and they change the oil while you wait.

They do a lot of miles in the US, but there are plenty of people doing similar mileages over here.

redtwin

7,518 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Toaster Pilot said:
Thing is, it's an American article, and I seriously doubt people religiously service their cars every 10,000 miles (or whatever) over there, given that people drive much longer distances regularly than we do.

A car with a 10k service interval would need servicing pretty damn often.
Recommendations for Oil changes every 3 months/3,000 miles were the norm when I first started driving in the US. Not suggesting it was right or wrong, but I certainly followed it, chances are quite a few others did too. Bear in mind oil is much cheaper to buy there. I could change the oil/filter for less than a tenner using branded oil and filter. Drive in/drive out quick change outfits were doing it for less than the equivalent of £15.





Toaster Pilot

14,839 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd March 2012
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Fair enough thumbup