Does an old rally cars log book have any value?
Does an old rally cars log book have any value?
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cragswinter

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Monday 5th March 2012
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Errr, as the title says really. Having a curry with my old man & some mates last night we got to talking about cars as usual & dad casually mentions he still has the log book for his old mini cooper, which before he owned it won the welsh rac rally & a few other events apparently.

In the end he chopped it up with & scrapped it, sold off all the bits he could (like the engine & box etc) & forgot about it.

He never declared it to the dvla.

I've heard about lots of race/rally cars being like triggers broom, but without any chassis numbers would anyone even want something like this?

PainTrain

437 posts

183 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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With the VIN I imagine it would have value...

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

222 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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PainTrain said:
With the VIN I imagine it would have value...
To scrotes that ring cars...

cragswinter

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219 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Obviously I'm aware of ringing cars, & we're not on about buying an old cooper & turning it into this cars identity, but....

Would you be able to buy a new heritage shell, build up the car & assign it this logbook?

Or am I being daft?

GC8

19,910 posts

213 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Yes, you could. You'd need a few other items to make the point count, but no one would be able to tell whether they were original or not...

Steffan

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251 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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Perfectly possible but I would not do it. The car at the end would be a fraud. Wrong Engine, body and everything else. Simply not genuine.

But it could be done and there are such cars about. Up to you.

cragswinter

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Steffan said:
Perfectly possible but I would not do it. The car at the end would be a fraud. Wrong Engine, body and everything else. Simply not genuine.

But it could be done and there are such cars about. Up to you.
Good answer cheers steffan, to be honest it's just something that dad would never throw away-one of those sorts of things I guess?

We're not the types to build a car up ourselves or anything & it's not like we're planning to do anything with it but although I knew about the car I never knew he still had the logbook for it.

AAGR

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184 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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[quote=cragswinter]Errr, as the title says really. Having a curry with my old man & some mates last night we got to talking about cars as usual & dad casually mentions he still has the log book for his old mini cooper, which before he owned it won the welsh rac rally & a few other events apparently.

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Anorak's Corner here - there was no such thing as the 'Welsh RAC rally', though there was a Welsh Rally. According to all published records, the Welsh rally was only won once by a Mini-Cooper (in 1964), and that particular car is well-known, and has been alive and well for many years.

So is it even worth taking this on as a worthwhile project ?

cragswinter

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Monday 5th March 2012
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AAGR said:
cragswinter said:
Errr, as the title says really. Having a curry with my old man & some mates last night we got to talking about cars as usual & dad casually mentions he still has the log book for his old mini cooper, which before he owned it won the welsh rac rally & a few other events apparently.
Anorak's Corner here - there was no such thing as the 'Welsh RAC rally', though there was a Welsh Rally. According to all published records, the Welsh rally was only won once by a Mini-Cooper (in 1964), and that particular car is well-known, and has been alive and well for many years.

So is it even worth taking this on as a worthwhile project ?
good point, i did wonder about the "welsh RAC" thing as i'd never heard of it before so i'd need to ask dad a bit more about it. the car came from a well known local rally driver though so although i'm not 100% sure what it is, there's a good chance it does have some history there.

obviously that doesn't mean the history is worth anything!

Crafty_

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223 months

Monday 5th March 2012
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As said it is possible.

As long as you were honest if you ever sold the car I don't see a problem.
Lots of rally cars are reshelled during their lives, I know of an ex works escort that has had at least 3 shells, including 1 reshell by the works team before it left them.

Many of the cars are used for a purpose, not garage trophies.