Its clutch time.

[Somesayhis]

Well it has happened!! At the ripe old mileage of 35241 miles. Mr Bank manager if you are reading, brace yourself. I believe E60 M5 clutches are EXPENSIVE!!

Edited by Somesayhis on Tuesday 6th March 08:35

[BlitzE34]

35K is a ridiculous life for a clutch.

[ecain63]

^^ Depends on the cars lifestyle.

[M5Dave]

Somesayhis said:

Well it has happened!! At the ripe old mileage of 35241 miles. Mr Bank manager if you are reading, brace yourself. I believe E60 M5 clutches are EXPENSIVE!!

Edited by Somesayhis on Tuesday 6th March 08:35

I reckon you could get the job done at a BMW specialist for about £1,500, which is still expensive but a lot better than the £2,500 BMW are reputed to charge for the job.

The genuine Sachs clutch kit and LUK flywheel can be had from Euro Car Parts for about £1,000.

[ecain63]

^^
Twin Mass Flywheel: LUK Part Number 415039210 (as verified by LUK)
Sachs Clutch Kit inc Release Bearing, Bolts, Fork and Alignment tool: Eurocarparts number 641110840

All in it comes to £1016.38 inc Vat. Add £5.70 for the guide bush and £4.00 for the guide bush lube (ordered by a good BMW indy), £350 to £500 for the Labour and we are talking £1376.08 to £1526.08 for a job that BMW charges between £2500 and £2700 for depending on your location.

If you are planning on using BMW anyway, why not push for a warranty job, regardless of whether its worn or not?

Eddie

[Beedub]

give simpson motorsport a call.... bmw gods imo and very reasonable in terms of cost..... you car will be in the best possible hands imo...

[thegreengoblet]

BlitzE34 said:

35K is a ridiculous life for a clutch.

3k in my TVR Cerbera!

[Somesayhis]

ecain63 said:

^^

If you are planning on using BMW anyway, why not push for a warranty job, regardless of whether its worn or not?

Eddie

Hello Eddie can you explain this a little bit more? Are you stating that I should maybe go to BMW UK and kickup a stink about the lowish miles.

[B737Capt]

Are these part numbers for a manual or SMG?

[M5Dave]

B737Capt said:

Are these part numbers for a manual or SMG?

These are for SMG cars.

I could be wrong here, but there's something in my mind that's telling me the manual box in the US cars is the same set up as the E39 M5.

[ecain63]

B737Capt said:

Are these part numbers for a manual or SMG?

These are the part numbers for the SMG box. I ordered them last year for my clutch job but never used them as BMW warranty paid for the pleasure.

[ecain63]

Somesayhis said:

ecain63 said:

^^

If you are planning on using BMW anyway, why not push for a warranty job, regardless of whether its worn or not?

Eddie

Hello Eddie can you explain this a little bit more? Are you stating that I should maybe go to BMW UK and kickup a stink about the lowish miles.

No, thats not what im saying. What i mean is, find a dealer who is willing to listen to your case and push them to look for fault , however small, rather than normal wear. If they are looking for a reason to support your theory, knowing that the warranty will cover it and they get paid instead of your indy, they might actually find a fault. Its not cheating the system, its just getting them into the right frame of mind by loading them up with the right thoughts. Mild mind control if you will.

This is what women do to men!

Eddie

[blondini]

The fact that SMG controls the clutch should be good leverage to push the suggestion that this is neither normal wear and tear nor driver abuse.

Also is it necessary to replace the flywheel? Surely it should outlast at least one clutch?

[ecain63]

^^^^

The flywheel is never really that worn after one clutches worth of use, but it has to be changed so both friction surfaces are fresh and even. A new clutch on a used clutch will cause uneven wear and rapid failure.

[Ritchie335is]

ecain63 said:

^^^^

The flywheel is never really that worn after one clutches worth of use, but it has to be changed so both friction surfaces are fresh and even. A new clutch on a used clutch will cause uneven wear and rapid failure.

If that is true why did we never used to change flywheels when doing a clutch change?
An old single mass flywheel still has the same machined face on it as a dual mass and I have never had to change one before and I must have change hundreds of clutches over the years.
I do understand your logic it just seems a bit excessive, I always thought that dual mass flywheels were changed as a matter of course when everything was opened up as they are known to fail.

[ecain63]

It's a 500bhp race engine that revs higher than would normally be associated with a road car. Balanced parts and perfect contacts are what keep this piece of mechanical wizardry from breaking apart when shifting at the redline. That's why its done. Agreed, a regular car can make do with one flywheel lasting 3, 4 or 5 clutches, but not the frenzied rev.