Major Changes To Brands Hatch Approved?
Discussion
someone else mentioned this a few weeks ago.
Staggered that they can ruin the excellent Graham Hill - seen of many of a successful and unsuccessful overtake. The proposed new corner will put an end to any overtakes as you'll be eaten up on Coopers.
JP is the only person behind this - he totally ruined Coram at Snetterton with a very similar constant radius extension.
Staggered that they can ruin the excellent Graham Hill - seen of many of a successful and unsuccessful overtake. The proposed new corner will put an end to any overtakes as you'll be eaten up on Coopers.
JP is the only person behind this - he totally ruined Coram at Snetterton with a very similar constant radius extension.
From what i've gathered its because the DTM guys want it as another overtaking spot.
Shame it ruins the flowing nature, and the best thing about Brands is that is does flow better than 99% of circuits. Hopefully enough fuss is thrown up about it untill the end of the season to make them reconsider, although it seems unlikely.
Shame it ruins the flowing nature, and the best thing about Brands is that is does flow better than 99% of circuits. Hopefully enough fuss is thrown up about it untill the end of the season to make them reconsider, although it seems unlikely.
It would be nice if that had'nt been drawn twith a ruler & the mug of off coffee they had in the office. A bit more natural flow would be nice!
Theres now a straight with a power/braking advantage leading up to the new section, as opposed to a best line/drivers corner which GH bend always was. Making the downhill section into it a constant bend into the section would be so much better.
Theres now a straight with a power/braking advantage leading up to the new section, as opposed to a best line/drivers corner which GH bend always was. Making the downhill section into it a constant bend into the section would be so much better.
I'm always curious of what sort of consultation is carried out when changes liek this are made. I suppose money talks in any eventuality though - and the average clubbie doesn't come fully equipped!
I've always enjoyed lining up for Graham Hill as if you got it wrong, put you on the back foot - but get it right and it would give you a great run at someone into Mclaren.
Just seems too clinical for my liking and I'd agree with earlier comment about Snetterton - I think that circuit has been completely ruined by it's "designed in a lab with a set-square" feel.
I've always enjoyed lining up for Graham Hill as if you got it wrong, put you on the back foot - but get it right and it would give you a great run at someone into Mclaren.
Just seems too clinical for my liking and I'd agree with earlier comment about Snetterton - I think that circuit has been completely ruined by it's "designed in a lab with a set-square" feel.
cptsideways said:
Making the downhill section into it a constant bend into the section would be so much better.
Like it used to be before the current layout then?Bring back 'Bottom Bend' I reckon.
Seriously though, the drawings being shown are only representative, not necessarily the final form of the layout.
Kim
If they do it then it will be bad news for track day traffic flow. As it currently is, slow traffic exits the corner on the right, leaving anyone behind in a faster machine a good opportunity to go inside and pass down the subsequent straight (on the left, on which you must pass on almost all UK track days). Consequently it is an ideal place to pass 'unhelpful' cars. The new layout will put them out on a blocking line on the left...
From a racing spectator's perspective I reckon that compared to the sample image, if would be better as an opening radius bend (to make it less of a pinch point), but that is just MHO.
From a racing spectator's perspective I reckon that compared to the sample image, if would be better as an opening radius bend (to make it less of a pinch point), but that is just MHO.
Forbes82 said:
From what i've gathered its because the DTM guys want it as another overtaking spot.
The same lot (IIRC) that caused the huge fencing to be erected on the entry to Druids?The DTM get a good turnout at Brands and the tickets for that weekend are at the upper end of the pricing scale. So I expect BH would do much to retain the race.
Any change to Brands Hatch causes me concern but MSV and JP have done such a great job over the years, that I'm happy to give them the benefit of any doubt.
There was a brief interview with JP regarding the changes in Motor Sport magazine a couple of months back. Essentially he said they were looking at changes to the bend to aid overtaking but the layout shown on the planning drawings was for planning only and not finalised in any way. They may choose not to do anything at all but if they were to do anything they would need planning permission which can take soe time so they applied just in case.
realjv said:
There was a brief interview with JP regarding the changes in Motor Sport magazine a couple of months back. Essentially he said they were looking at changes to the bend to aid overtaking but the layout shown on the planning drawings was for planning only and not finalised in any way. They may choose not to do anything at all but if they were to do anything they would need planning permission which can take soe time so they applied just in case.
I would trust nothing that man says.
much quicker bend and much more flowing than the current iterationSo who contacted English Heritage about getting Brands "listed" as a site of special historical interest then?. No doubt someone out there thinks this was a clever way to get these changes stopped, but it might just come back and bite them on the arse.
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