6 British Soldiers Missing
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6 British soldiers missing presumed dead in an IED blast in Lashkar Gah! http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16183891
Can we please pull out of this horrible country hopefully following from what the French did when they lost multiple soldiers in a single incident.
Although i am wondering just how big a blast it must have been to rip a Warrior to bits!
Thought's with the family's RIP
Can we please pull out of this horrible country hopefully following from what the French did when they lost multiple soldiers in a single incident.
Although i am wondering just how big a blast it must have been to rip a Warrior to bits!
Thought's with the family's RIP
Sad loss of life 
However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of s
t.
As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of s
t.As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
Very odd to deem them 'missing', yet inform families of their death. Confused.
New tactic from the insurgents? Bigger blast?
Makes a cold shiver run through you.
Any achievements in this country are temporary. We build a school and employ a teacher, they kill the teacher and destroy the school.
New tactic from the insurgents? Bigger blast?
Makes a cold shiver run through you.
Any achievements in this country are temporary. We build a school and employ a teacher, they kill the teacher and destroy the school.
MikeGTi said:
Bad news
Yep i can't see why we use warrior out there tbh, too vulnerable to those sort of attacks especially when we have other vehicles that can pretty much do the same thing.richinleeds said:
Although i am wondering just how big a blast it must have been to rip a Warrior to bits!
Pretty big. Though I would imagine a UVIED would have been the method used, much greater effect vs. a Warrior.Dr Banjo said:
Sad loss of life
However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of st.
As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
Totally agree BanjoHowever what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of s
t.As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
richinleeds said:
Yep i can't see why we use warrior out there tbh, too vulnerable to those sort of attacks especially when we have other vehicles that can pretty much do the same thing.
30mm Cannon, presence. AFAIK there are very few of them out there, and they don't venture too far into the Green Zone.Now Terry knows how to defeat it though, smacks of the later days of TELIC.
MikeGTi said:
richinleeds said:
Yep i can't see why we use warrior out there tbh, too vulnerable to those sort of attacks especially when we have other vehicles that can pretty much do the same thing.
30mm Cannon, presence. AFAIK there are very few of them out there, and they don't venture too far into the Green Zone.Now Terry knows how to defeat it though, smacks of the later days of TELIC.
MikeGTi said:
Bad news
Doesn't actually need to be that big. A copper EFP based IED can be quite small and do the job. Nasty horrible things.richinleeds said:
Although i am wondering just how big a blast it must have been to rip a Warrior to bits!
Pretty big. Though I would imagine a UVIED would have been the method used, much greater effect vs. a Warrior.Dr Banjo said:
Sad loss of life
However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of st.
As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
Or the US could just use their own oil rather than the middle east's and we can leave the ME to it's own beardy, sandy existence - they might want to stop blowing us up. Who knows, it may just work....However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Iraq is now descending into a shower of s
t.As a massive follower of our armed forces I would have to agree... not worth the lives lost as there is no long term strategy.
Cant remember who said it, maybe an american but he suggested that it may be better to fight them on our own soil than to try and contain them on foreign soil. Maybe there is some mileage in this.
rhinochopig said:
MikeGTi said:
Bad news
Doesn't actually need to be that big. A copper EFP based IED can be quite small and do the job. Nasty horrible things.richinleeds said:
Although i am wondering just how big a blast it must have been to rip a Warrior to bits!
Pretty big. Though I would imagine a UVIED would have been the method used, much greater effect vs. a Warrior.The other factor is that Warriors in Afghanistan mainly use bar armour instead of applique to save weight.
richinleeds said:
Yep but if i remember correctly they don't actually use the 30mm, i agree though the presence is a factor..........hey why don't we go the whole hog and get some CR2 out there now that will show a presence!
I don't see why not, 30mm was used when we had Scimitars out there. The reason we don't use CR2 is that it's too heavy (Warrior is pushing it) and there's no need for a 120mm HESH spitting beast 
The whole thing is a joke. I watched the final episode of Royal Marrines Mission Afghanistan on tv last night and it made me furious to see the injuries our guys are suffering - FOR WHAT? As has been said, everything that has been achieved will be shot and torn down within months of pulling out of the country. We should leave now and let the whole middle east rot in hell.
Terribly sad news
Do what Australia did, take no part in global operations and protect our own borders better.
I had a debate with a colleague who is ex military. His view was that we wouls "lose our place at the top table". So what?
Dr Banjo said:
However what is going to happen when our forces leave ?
The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Harsh as it may sound, is that "our" problem?The Taliban will just play a waiting game and then just rip the Afgan police/army to shreds when we are not there to protect them.
Do what Australia did, take no part in global operations and protect our own borders better.
I had a debate with a colleague who is ex military. His view was that we wouls "lose our place at the top table". So what?
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