Diesel Sports Estate
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eddie1980

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419 posts

218 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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For the last year I have been driving a 57 Reg Skoda Octavia VRS and I am impressed with it I have to say.

I am considering changing it for an 09 Reg of the same to stay within our company car policy, I am also wondering what else is an option around the £10k bracket.

Must be an estate
Must be diesel as I cover 30-40k a year
Must be a sports edition as I like the brakes, seats, suspension and power
Must be available 3 years old around £10k, millage can be high though.

Edited by eddie1980 on Monday 12th March 17:02

CHIEF

2,270 posts

312 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Audi S4 Avant?

Audi A4 3.0 Tdi Avant?

Contigo

3,139 posts

239 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Got to be a diesel?

as said the S4 Avant is good in V8 form, (some are LPG'ed)
Alpina D3 Touring is a great rare motor but finding one for 10K is a little hard at the moment.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3722445.htm


325Ti

391 posts

176 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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doubt you'd get either of them for 10k

at that budget and age i'd look at
Alfa 159
Seat Exeo
Subura legacy
Volvo v50 D5

personally id go for the volvo with skoda a close 2nd

aberdeeneuan

1,435 posts

208 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I think you might struggle to get a 2009 in the more typical sports varients for 10K without intergallatic mileage, however what about a SAAB TTID Aero?

You'd probably get into a Volvo V50 but suspect that would feel a bit pedestrian after the Skoda.

eddie1980

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Really needs to be a diesel as I do around 30-40k per year.

It will be a high millage one as I see no point buying something with around 50k on the clock and taking the hit on selling it around 100k would prefer to add some more to an already depreciated car, also I work in the mineral extraction industry so I prefer not to be too precious about it. Generally I look to buy something around the 100k mark.

The V50 is an interesting option although the ones I have driven always feel small.

Wigeon Incognito

3,274 posts

248 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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eddie1980 said:
The V50 is an interesting option although the ones I have driven always feel small.
They are small, which is why with the D5 engine rather than a Ford lump they go pretty well too!

5lab

1,935 posts

226 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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mini clubman diesel cooper s?

SrMoreno

546 posts

176 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Subaru Legacy for a little over budget:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3720474.htm

Ideal for bombing into quarry/opencast sites!

Vladimir

6,917 posts

188 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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SrMoreno said:
Subaru Legacy for a little over budget:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3720474.htm

Ideal for bombing into quarry/opencast sites!
+1 - the V50 is a lovely car IMO but it'll get a battering.

Get a Legacy in sensible sized wheels. Four wheel drive, bombproof. The Outback is the jacked up version and worth a look too.

S10 GTA

13,807 posts

197 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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159 SW or C6 (which clearly isn't an estate)

The C6 would be a very nice place to do 40k in.

Edited by S10 GTA on Monday 12th March 19:54

S10 GTA

13,807 posts

197 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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159 SW or C6 (which clearly isn't an estate)

The C6 would be a very nice place to do 40k in.

Edited by S10 GTA on Monday 12th March 19:57

eddie1980

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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Well it’s been almost a year since I changed from the VRS to the V50. It’s not been an easy transition I have to say.

The car in the end was a 59 Plate Volvo V50 D5 SE R Design. Purchased at 74k and now just passed 100k.

So far it’s had a service and timing belt, a set of tires and rear disks and pads, also a near side mirror due to pheasant damage.

It’s been difficult adjusting to a car that feels very cramped after the skoda and ultimately has a lot less features. I still get to drive my old VRS now and then as one of my friends has taken it on so I feel I can give a good comparison.

The drawbacks I have found are:
Internal Space, this is woeful compared to the VRS, I knew it was smaller but the shear lack of space and limited number of pockets and storage in comparison has to be experienced to be believed. Even the door pockets are so small and strangely shaped there of limited use.
Cabin layout is poor, plug something in the front cigarette lighter, that’ll be in the way of the gear stick then, put something like a cup in the cupholder... you’ll elbow that on every gear change. Reach for the handbrake, that’ll be the passengers leg your feeling... I could go on.
The VRS may have VAG over assisted brakes but they are very very good. The heavier Volvo has brakes but there no way near as good as the VRS.
The gear box is difficult and unrewarding, again very noticeable when changing between cars.
Power delivery is not as rewarding as the VRS and its takes considerable practice with the gear box - engine combo to get even close to as rewarding a B road experience.
Build quality, looks good on the surface but when you get into it I am not impressed, I have found bits of mig wire sticking out of welds and on changing the rear brakes felt the design and strength was lacking compared to the VRS.
The lights are always on, this chews through H7’s at a rapid rate, and means you cannot quietly consume your drive through without being light up like and xmas tree.
The handling is less rewarding, it’s chunkier but it’s vaguer and the feedback took a lot more getting used to.
The standard tire size is very strange one (215/45/18) adding considerable money to the tire costs.
Parts costs and supply, not as easy to get as a VAG, the Mirror alone was over £400 in just parts.


Plus points:
Engine Noise, the D5 engine is one of the better sounding diesels around.
Looks, It’s nice to look it has to be said, especially in R Design form.
Seating, the seats are good, and make the journey shorter, unless your in the back where there isnt any room.
Tow car, it does tow better than the VRS.

On balance I would not buy another one it has to be said. It’s not a bad car, and there is no major showstopper with it but the constant list of small drawbacks some of which are more minor are tiring and really I would go back to the VRS in a heartbeat.


Edited by eddie1980 on Sunday 13th January 22:31

lightthefuse

426 posts

202 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I'm inclined to agree with you regards the lack of space in the V50. Don't know if the information is kosher, but a Skoda salesperson told me that the boot of a Fabia estate is bigger yikes.

I think it's the same deal with the new V60 as well from what I've seen - sure, it's bigger than the V50, but there's only one load lugger in the Volvo range anymore and that's the V70. How things have changed. Glad you liked the D5, seriously considering it in a V70 when the V70 we have goes pop (half-past never I reckon).

eddie1980

Original Poster:

419 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th January 2013
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I would belive the boot in the Fabia estate is bigger! The one in the V50 is supprisingly small. As you say the V60 is not much better.