What car did Clarkson want instead of the KTM?

[Watchman]

Last week's TG, Clarkson conceded that the KTM was his second choice because his first choice had broken down in the factory. What was it? Whatever he said didn't ring a bell with me and I forgot to Google it before deleting it from my Sky+ box.

[slinky]

BAC Mono
http://bac-mono.com/

[Codswallop]

BAC Mono (clickable PH test drive linky)

[RenesisEvo]

Would loved to have seen them in the Mono.

Did find it rather odd that they made a piece of using trackday toys to drive to work. Whilst highly amusing, it's a bit like using a fork to eat soup. It's so clearly not designed for that purpose.

[Watchman]

Oh yes. That passed me by completely. I really like that.

In fact, running one through the configurator, I managed to get an on-the-road price of £140K. Erk..!!

[SWoll]

Watchman said:

Oh yes. That passed me by completely. I really like that.

In fact, running one through the configurator, I managed to get an on-the-road price of £140K. Erk..!!

Having seen one in the flesh at TG Live I can confirm it really is something special indeed and stands head and shoulders above the likes of the X-Bow etc as a piece of design and engineering. Check out the autocar video review on Youtube for their opinion on driving it...

You must have put one hell of a spec on there though, you've managed to pretty much double the starting price

[Vocal Minority]

Standard PH answer to the 'poor TG test'

- It isn't a car show fronted by three journalists, it is an entertainment show featuring 3 characters - Jezza, Hamster and Captain Slow.

Every second is about as real as Jordan's chest - and I think there would be a lot less kurfuffle over the show when people appreciate that.

[Watchman]

Vocal Minority said:

Standard PH answer to the 'poor TG test'

- It isn't a car show fronted by three journalists, it is an entertainment show featuring 3 characters - Jezza, Hamster and Captain Slow.

Every second is about as real as Jordan's chest - and I think there would be a lot less kurfuffle over the show when people appreciate that.

What?

[Watchman]

SWoll said:

You must have put one hell of a spec on there though, you've managed to pretty much double the starting price

I didn't - honest..!! I did add some additional items but once they added VAT onto the prices at the end, it came out at £104K.

I didn't have the customer helmet, second set of wheels/tyres but I did have some of the items you'd want for using it on the road. There was a lot more I could have selected.

[Vocal Minority]

People approach Top Gear as if it is a factual program asking questions like - what did they hope to prove by driving a Crossbow in the rain?

The answer is...nothing. It was designed to achieve a laugh. Tenner says they even waited for a wet day to film it.

People get incredibly offended by top gear...why? Its a scripted show, and the presenters are characatures of themselves. - It just confuses me how people continue to take the show seriously.

[SWoll]

Watchman said:

SWoll said:

You must have put one hell of a spec on there though, you've managed to pretty much double the starting price

I didn't - honest..!! I did add some additional items but once they added VAT onto the prices at the end, it came out at £104K.

I didn't have the customer helmet, second set of wheels/tyres but I did have some of the items you'd want for using it on the road. There was a lot more I could have selected.

You said £140k earlier, which is what surprised me.

[SWoll]

Vocal Minority said:

People approach Top Gear as if it is a factual program asking questions like - what did they hope to prove by driving a Crossbow in the rain?

The answer is...nothing. It was designed to achieve a laugh. Tenner says they even waited for a wet day to film it.

People get incredibly offended by top gear...why? Its a scripted show, and the presenters are characatures of themselves. - It just confuses me how people continue to take the show seriously.

I think the issue is that it mixes ridiculous and heavily scripted sections with actual "judgements" on the merits of certain products. It is so popular that certain "sweeping statements" made by JC especially can cause real problems for some companies/products whether they are accurate or not.

It does make me cringe sometimes hwen he makes a factually incorrect statement just for "effect"...

[supertouring]

I quite like the look of that, it is a shame they had to go with the x-bow.

[ewenm]

SWoll said:

I think the issue is that it mixes ridiculous and heavily scripted sections with actual "judgements" on the merits of certain products. It is so popular that certain "sweeping statements" made by JC especially can cause real problems for some companies/products whether they are accurate or not.

It does make me cringe sometimes hwen he makes a factually incorrect statement just for "effect"...

Along the lines of May saying "Caterham! Windscreen! Heater!" both of which are options available on the car as well he knows (and the screen can be switchable with the aeroscreen). It riles me but it's not worth getting worked up about.

[Watchman]

SWoll said:

Watchman said:

SWoll said:

You must have put one hell of a spec on there though, you've managed to pretty much double the starting price

I didn't - honest..!! I did add some additional items but once they added VAT onto the prices at the end, it came out at £104K.

I didn't have the customer helmet, second set of wheels/tyres but I did have some of the items you'd want for using it on the road. There was a lot more I could have selected.

You said £140k earlier, which is what surprised me.

Ah yes. Sorry - Dyslexic day today.

[Dave Hedgehog]

wasnt the mono the car he had in his crimbo DVD, i think he got it pretty close to the F1 drivers lap time after a couple of hours of trying

he rated it extremely highly

[justin220]

Dave Hedgehog said:

wasnt the mono the car he had in his crimbo DVD, i think he got it pretty close to the F1 drivers lap time after a couple of hours of trying

he rated it extremely highly

Think that was the Lotus T125?

[Caulkhead]

I can't see what's odd about driving a trackday car in the rain. You've got to drive it to the track and back again whether it's raining or not in this country.

[ewenm]

Caulkhead said:

I can't see what's odd about driving a trackday car in the rain. You've got to drive it to the track and back again whether it's raining or not in this country.

Or trailer it.

Or if it's the Caterham, fit the windscreen and roof for the drive there, remove them and fit the aeroscreen for the track and depending how wet you get, either refit afterwards or not for the drive home.

[Dave Hedgehog]

justin220 said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

wasnt the mono the car he had in his crimbo DVD, i think he got it pretty close to the F1 drivers lap time after a couple of hours of trying

he rated it extremely highly

Think that was the Lotus T125?

no it was a mono at paul ricard

http://www.bac-mono.com/news.php?newsID=16