MX5 Mk2 - is the 1.6 really useless vs 1.8?
MX5 Mk2 - is the 1.6 really useless vs 1.8?
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UnderTheRadar

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503 posts

193 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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My OH & I are in the market for a low-cost fun car and the MX5 (in true PH style) fits the bill. The local indie that services our cars has an absolutely immaculate one with a factory hard top in British Racing Green. 51K but a full history. £4,750 seems a little steep for an 03 but I'm sure there's wriggle-room there.

The thing that niggles me is that it's a 1.6, not the 1.8 and everyone seems to say the 99BHP 1.6 just isn't enough for the car. I'd be very interested to hear whether other PHers would consider a 1.6.

vescaegg

28,145 posts

187 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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That's a very steep price. I got a 1.8 SVT sport (2002 146bhp IIRC) for £2900 last weekend in mint condition with a full history...

There are so many mx5's out there that no one really needs to make concessions on spec

Edited by vescaegg on Friday 9th March 16:09

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

219 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Seems expensive, but I think the 1.6 is the lump used for FI conversions.

HorneyMX5

5,570 posts

170 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Crap engine and a over priced car. Find a 1.8 or if you do get a 1.6 get it in an early JDM MKI.

NIck

GC8

19,910 posts

210 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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As stated, its very, very expansive! Id expect to pay far less for a clean Mk2.5 1.8 VVT Sport with a hard top.

The 1.6 isnt as lame as many will have you believe, as the power output is respectable - it was only the UK market 1994> 1.6l Mk1 that was detuned.

Edited by GC8 on Friday 9th March 16:26

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

210 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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UnderTheRadar said:
My OH & I are in the market for a low-cost fun car and the MX5 (in true PH style) fits the bill. The local indie that services our cars has an absolutely immaculate one with a factory hard top in British Racing Green. 51K but a full history. £4,750 seems a little steep for an 03 but I'm sure there's wriggle-room there.

The thing that niggles me is that it's a 1.6, not the 1.8 and everyone seems to say the 99BHP 1.6 just isn't enough for the car. I'd be very interested to hear whether other PHers would consider a 1.6.
Does it really matter what other PH'ers would or wouldn't consider?? Surely the only opinions worth anything are that of your OH and your own.

So on that basis drive it and see what you think. If you like it, then you know it's fine, if you don't, then you also know. If you are not sure, then arrange to drive a 1.8 version so you can compare.

smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

225 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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£4750!!!

rofl

UnderTheRadar

Original Poster:

503 posts

193 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Thank you for your replies. So it's overpriced, availability of the 1.8 is good and I can get one for less than they are selling the 1.6. Although the 1.6 is not a dog. However I think in this area there is more money than sense and someone will buy it at that price because of the BRG colour and it's cosmetically mint.

ETA Actually I just drove past and it's £4790

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

176 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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If it's going to be the convertible equivalent of a daily hatchback, let's say a hairdressers car, 1.6 is fine. Go 1.8 or early 1.6 if buying as a sportscar.

D1bram

1,518 posts

191 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I sold my 56plate 2.0 Sport with 38k for £5500 recently.

So yes it is very overpriced!

Look at private ads, you're into Mk3 money just about at that price.

designforlife

3,742 posts

183 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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I went for a 1.6 NB as it was in the colour,spec and condition I was after, I only test drove 1.6s, and am perfectly happy with mine.

The engine can be a little gutless toward the top end, but that doesn't detract from the handling of the car, and theres something amusing about revving the nuts off it to get some performance.

If you do ever go FI, the 1.6 is just as good a platform as the 1.8, and you can take that 110bhp to circa 200 with no problem.

Baryonyx

18,194 posts

179 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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No, it's a great little engine. Still thirsty, but I have always found 1.6 MX5's a little more willing to rev and requiring just a touch more 'wringing out' to get the best from them. I'd choose the 1.8 if I were looking for a cruiser, and the 1.6 for a fun little blaster.

More important I think is to choose a car on price and condition. There is little between the engines when out on the road, and you're best putting your cash to the best car overall.

RenesisEvo

3,813 posts

239 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Baryonyx said:
and you're best putting your cash to the best car overall.
yes given how rusty even some late Mk2.5s are, I'd be worrying about other things than the engine.

UnderTheRadar

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503 posts

193 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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RenesisEvo said:
yes given how rusty even some late Mk2.5s are, I'd be worrying about other things than the engine.
Interesting - apologies for the novice question but where should I be looking for rust?

GC8

19,910 posts

210 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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The rear of the sills and the leading edge of the rear wheel arch. Absolutely any imperfection means corrosion - theres no such thing as a tiny rust bubble, a car with that will need new sills.

Ive seen plenty of Mk2.5s in this state, unfortunately.

Baryonyx

18,194 posts

179 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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UnderTheRadar said:
Interesting - apologies for the novice question but where should I be looking for rust?
Rear arches and sills are the first places you can really see it. And on the inside of the boot lid. But if you can see cosmetic rust there there is a good chance that it may be present in more critical areas like suspension mounts etc etc.

1981linley

937 posts

167 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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Had a 1.6 in crystal blue colour and loved it. Sounded awesome with the K&N typhoon filter and this seemed to give it some serious extra power...front end seemed to lift up somewhat when booting it and it absolutely roared. Beat many a car off lights...notably a flash young Asian guy who clearly loved cars in a pimped Audi TT...side by side at lights all the way to next set...he was so impressed he wound window down and said " fast innit" what engines innit? 1.6. Can't imagine 1.8 is much better.

GC8

19,910 posts

210 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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The 1.8l is noticeably more powerful... 142bhp as opposed to 110bhp.

fozzymandeus

1,076 posts

166 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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ABS as standard on the 1.8, not the 1.6 I believe.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

225 months

Friday 9th March 2012
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1981linley said:
Had a 1.6 in crystal blue colour and loved it. Sounded awesome with the K&N typhoon filter and this seemed to give it some serious extra power...front end seemed to lift up somewhat when booting it and it absolutely roared. Beat many a car off lights...notably a flash young Asian guy who clearly loved cars in a pimped Audi TT...side by side at lights all the way to next set...he was so impressed he wound window down and said " fast innit" what engines innit? 1.6. Can't imagine 1.8 is much better.
Cool story bro... hehe

1.8 is far far quicker, the air filter just makes it noisier, not actually faster.