M3 CS - any views on this car?
M3 CS - any views on this car?
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jh106

Original Poster:

53 posts

253 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Hi - anyone been to see or know this car? Any feedback welcome.

Thanks

www.pistonheads.com/sales/3655521.htm

scarebus

858 posts

197 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Nothing to say...... only lick

3ftandclean

357 posts

206 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Looks lovely.

andrewturner

324 posts

241 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Looks good, nice colour and spec.

CS's do seem to demand a premium over a standard M3 but apart from the service history being with independents since 24k, looks good to me (that wouldn't put me off).

Yanto

547 posts

234 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Looks stunning - taken out of context great car for the money. But, in the current climate and market (and downward pressure of E92) I'd say 2-3k overpriced.

Pal of mine just picked up an 05 CS (admittedly with high miles - 120K) for 7.5k

Milky Joe

3,851 posts

230 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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PLEASE CALL TODAY TO ARRANGE A VIEWING AT YOUR NEAREST CONVENIENCE



rofl

Edited by Milky Joe on Monday 19th March 20:38

krisdelta

4,669 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th March 2012
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Nice looking car, you'll want to check its had a propert inspection II service (valve clearences) as last couple have been at Indies, agree on price - looks too strong in todays market, perhaps £2k overpriced in my mind.

leeson660

429 posts

191 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Looks really nice but as previous posts maybe slightly overpriced.

I bought my CS around 3 months ago for almost exactly the same price. Mine has better spec and had only done 32k miles and is still under warranty but I did get a real bargain in my opinion.

Not sure if the Interlagos Blue and manual gearbox would be worth more than my grey / SMG.

Good luck smile




JNW1

9,370 posts

220 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Potentially a nice example of a great car! The only desirable option that looks to be missing is an electric sunroof (lifts the cabin when you've got black leather and black headlining IMO) but that wouldn't be a show-stopper for me if the rest of the car was right. I think there are one or two factual inaccuracies in the advert (no launch control on a CS with a manual box and no cruise control either) but if you're after a CS it certainly looks to be worth a look.

In terms of price I'd agree with the other posts that suggest it's on the high side; I guess an independent won't be offering anything like the sort of warranty that comes with a BMW AUC so I think £14k would be more like it. Having said that, someone on another thread said they'd recently got over £15k on a private sale for a CS with over 50k miles on it so perhaps they're in demand at the moment? My rule of thumb was always 10% on top of the price of a standard M3 but I could well be wrong!

jh106

Original Poster:

53 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th March 2012
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Thanks for the responses. Sounds like its worth a look given there are not many manuals cs's out there. Be even nicer if it was cheaper though.......


QED87

463 posts

232 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I believe I went to look at this car before it went to the dealer, so if it is the very same car;

A bit of background; this car was bought by a chap in Shropshire from Wynyards in the summer of 2011. He had it for sale for some time - about 2 months if I remember correctly. I went to look at it when he had it for sale, more about that later. Anyway, it didn't sell so he traded it back to Wynyards about 1 month ago. The photos on the web I think are from when they originally sold it.

So onto the car. The perfect spec in my view but when I saw it I spotted the following;

It needed new disks and pads all round.
The wheels were in poor condition needing complete reconditioning
The offside front wing had a small bubble above the wheel and the paint seemed to be quite thin.
There was overspray on the rubber trim behind the front bumper.
The interior was pretty good but the door pocket on the driverside has a very small nick in it.
The rear tyres were low but the seller had a spare set from a set of standard M3 wheels, they may well be on the car now.

Oil was clean and engine bay in good shape. It had just had a Inspection II with a specialist.
Service history was not all BMW, with the last two from different specialists.

The previous owner told me he had done a couple of track days in it at Anglesey.

So whilst it has low milage and is the perfect spec, I didn't buy when I saw it because I felt it needed some money spending on it to put things right - wing, brakes & wheels and at the time I was prepared to wait for another one.

Hope this helps, and these are all my personal remarks, if you're interested I'd advise going to have a look yourself!



mr sagman

1,735 posts

262 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I have also viewed this car, And my findings were exactly as above.. It needs money spending on it to bring it up to my standard,
When I initially saw it it looked absolutely awesome in that colour, And the wheels have just been refurbished so it looked stunning.. Until I examined the bodywork close up and found overspray in areas, and there has definately been a poorly repaired dent or scuff and the paintwork in that area is duller than the rest of the car.. There are also smallish scratches on almost every panel of the car, The car drives fantastically well, the engine note is superb, If it had been in better exterior condition I would of possibly put a deposit down on it.
However after a couple of long trips in my E39 M5 I dont think I can bring myself to let it go, Even after a spirited test drive in a CSL.. For me nothing compares to the M5..Its gonna take something very special to get me to part company with it.
(Apologies to anyone who has PM'd me re my viewing but my PH email aint working for some reason.)

jh106

Original Poster:

53 posts

253 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Thanks - very helpful feedback.

Did either of you get an indication a sensible deal is likely? Surely no one is going to pay top whack if it needs a couple of K spending on it?

JNW1

9,370 posts

220 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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jh106 said:
Thanks - very helpful feedback.

Did either of you get an indication a sensible deal is likely? Surely no one is going to pay top whack if it needs a couple of K spending on it?
Given the comments from people who've seen the car it seems way over-priced to me! A few stone chips are obviously acceptable at almost 50k miles but £16k + should be buying a car that's pretty much spot on with little or no work needed in the immediate future; the fact the car's been tracked would put me off as well so all in all I'd be walking away from that one! However, if you were still interested I'd say £13.5k tops given the comments on condition and history.....

Big E 118

2,468 posts

195 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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If you're looking at replacing pads, discs and tyres that's a fairly hefty bill without even adressing the cosmetics. Get a quote from your local dealer for those and see how you feel then.

On the plus side if it's had the Inspection II done recently then that's a plus.




thehos

923 posts

210 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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wrong gearbox

leeson660

429 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th March 2012
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thehos said:
wrong gearbox
Controversial! coffee

MattOz

4,019 posts

290 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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leeson660 said:
thehos said:
wrong gearbox
Controversial! coffee
Hee Hee. Being pedantic, the gearboxes are identical. It's merely that the method employed to shift gears is different. HTH

JNW1

9,370 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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MattOz said:
leeson660 said:
thehos said:
wrong gearbox
Controversial! coffee
Hee Hee. Being pedantic, the gearboxes are identical. It's merely that the method employed to shift gears is different. HTH
Yep, you go along in a series of jerks and whince at the thump through the rear axle when you change-up under hard acceleration - or you can buy a manual! wink

jh106

Original Poster:

53 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th March 2012
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It's now sold (that explains why the dealer never responded to my message......). I have always fancied a CS but trying to find a manual car looks like it might be an issue. Are they that different to a standard E46?